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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-01-07 05:26 pm

Um...

Since nobody else on lj seems to be talking about it, I guess I'll bring it up:

Does anybody have some thoughts on the newly revealed Buffy comic covers*?

I am...slightly perturbed. And then angry at myself for caring. BUT I CAN'T HELP IT, DAMNIT! My face? Looked like Bob's in my moodtheme. Just like that. And in case you were wondering, it's not the possible revelation of the identity of Twilight that bothers me. It's the thing I refer to in my tags.... Although even though I'm not reading the comics, that would be a stupid, stupid revelation. Stupid.

Emmie? Hon? Wanna explain this one for me?



*spoilers liek woah
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[personal profile] snickfic 2010-01-07 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I would love to get together and be peturbed with you, but your link is broke broke broke. Alas.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Alas indeed! But huzzah! For I have fixed it!

I'm still not really sure what I'm seeing...

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[personal profile] deird1 2010-01-07 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Grrr...

*hits them with my shipping ray of death*

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-07 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I try! I really try not to be one of those shippers! I do! But I can't help it!

Also, shipping aside, if that truly is the revelation, it's a dumb one, and I'm offended on behalf of the other side of the shipping debate.

Basically, it's offense all around!

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[identity profile] gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com 2010-01-07 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh? Duh what? Why does the second cover look like the type of shmaltzy illustration you'd get on a kid's Valentine's Day card?

And why is Angel wearing a Batman outfit?

And...what the fuckity fuck?

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of people are thinking it's some kind of joke. And apparently the outfit is Twilight's outfit. So not only do these covers supposedly show Bangel-ness, but they also confirm Angel as Twilight. Which is just the stupidest thing ever, on multiple levels.

I love that icon.

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[identity profile] slaymesoftly.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know they'd been revealed. There's been all sorts of chatter on the BSV forum lately about Twilight and cover art and what it all means, but since I had no idea where they'd seen the covers, I haven't paid much attention. The new comic came out yesterday. I'll probably try to grab it tomorrow evening if I don't forget about it while I'm in that area.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I'm just profoundly confused and think this is a ratings selling ploy. Or something. But yeah, if you ever have any insight, I'd like to hear it!
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I always check the comic covers. They are soooooo pretty even though I don’t care for the way the story has gone.

Heehee, I read the word “Twilight”, gave the cover a glance, and for a moment I thought they’d snuck in Robert Pattinson as a gag.

I'm still not really sure what I'm seeing...
It looks like some sappy shoujo anime, not the Buffy and Angel I know at all *blinks*

So Angel is Twilight is the Big Bad? I knew it was someone close to her because HER FACE in that other cover but...ANGEL?

Huh.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think it'll turn out to have been some kind of red herring.

Dude, how awesome would it have been if the cover was Buffy staking Edward? *dies*

It does like very similar to that.

By the way: did you get my email with my thoughts about your fic? Just wanting to make sure! [ETA] Haha! Just kidding! I just got your email!
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[identity profile] powerofthebook.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Just a thought, but I wonder if Joss screws with his Buffy shippers as a distraction from the cancellation of another series. After Firefly was cancelled, we got the inexplicably odd B/A kiss right after the wild events in the the Angel S4 finale, while Spike watched.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I can honestly say I never would have thought of that. But if it's true, it's awfully immature. ;) Maybe so?

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just seeing it now and my reaction...

Well, it's completely selfish. Because if this is straight-up true - then it makes my writing life so much easier. One guess as to how this will play out in Thought You Should Know. :D

Honestly, I've thought that Twilight might be Angel for a while now. I just didn't understand how this would work with the IDW comics. I don't really get the emotional end of it for Buffy. And here's the thing - if Twilight is Angel, than Angel is responsible for bombing the shit out of Buffy's Slayers - killing them. So Buffy getting snuggly with Angel as Twilight? Erm, no.

Angel: "Buffy, I love you so much. So I came back into your life, lurked like I always do, even wore a mask, then manipulated you and physically attacked you - remember how fucked up you looked after I threw a church steeple at you? Ah, good times. Anyways, I know that I also had Warren and Amy bomb the castle which killed some of your Slayers, but well, you made me do it. See, you changed things and I had to do this to save the world."

Buffy: "Oh, Angel! I understand. I've been so bad and wrong and misguided. If only you could have told me, trusted me to know better, but you were so right to do everything behind my back. Because I'm unworthy of your trust. Please, can't we just forget this world in peril stuff and be kissing now? Mmm, Angel."

All I can say is that the comics don't always depict exactly what's happening in the story. But I think what we can say is that Angel is coming into Season 8. Not flashback!Angel or dream!Angel, but present day Angel.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
There she is! *was waiting for you*

Haha! I lovelovelove that your first thought was about TYSK. I admit--it definitely popped into my head, even if my first thought was, "Oh my shipper heart is broken!" and then, "Wait. It can't honestly be Angel."

Yeah, there's no way it can actually be true that he is Twilight. That would be awful and stupid. I think there must be something else going on.


All I can say is that the comics don't always depict exactly what's happening in the story.
Yeah, I feel like there have been times when people freaked out before about things that turned out not to be at all what they looked like. I assume that's what's going on here.

But I think what we can say is that Angel is coming into Season 8. Not flashback!Angel or dream!Angel, but present day Angel. I know I have no right to demand things, especially since I'm not actually reading S8, but I feel like if they do bring Angel around, then they'll have to address whether Buffy knows that Spike's alive. It would be glaringly obvious if they didn't.

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[identity profile] unbridled-b.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well, here is just another indication that I made the right choice in not wasting my money on the season eight comics. >:(

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Joel McHale! Are you by chance watching Community? I always enjoyed his snark on The Soup, but I'm loving Community so much I can't even say. And I don't really watch sitcoms!

Anyways, I agree: with every subsequent development, I am more and more glad that I didn't start reading them.

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[identity profile] hkath.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, I friended you the other day because I read and liked one of your fics and I figured I'd be interested in what you talk about. I was right ;)

I'm going with joke for these covers. Which is funny, because usually I'll try to believe the spoilers that I most dislike, so I'll at least be a little prepared in case they turn out to be true. But for this? Ack. Joke. *crosses fingers*

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! Well, welcome! I ramble about a great many diverse things, and I don't think there's anyone on my flist who's interested in all of them, but I hope you do find some things of interest to you!

I don't think it's a joke, exactly. I think it's probably intentionally misleading, but not in a funny way. But I'm like you: I always believe the spoilers I hate, too. Ah, well! I guess we'll see!

[identity profile] finkpishnets.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
OK, let's start with me saying that I haven't read Season 8. I have the first part in my room somewhere, I think, but I never got around to reading it. My personal reasons being that I believe the show ended perfectly and I didn't need anything more from it.

Angel's a different matter, of course, but I haven't read those comics either.

So, my reaction to this? WHAT THE FLYING FUCK ARE PEOPLE DOING TO THE BUFFY VERSE?!?! I'm totally and utterly confused. Seriously.

(Although Dawn/Xander? Really? Awww. I never, never thought they would ever go there despite the tender moments they gave them in the show.)

But. Yes. Really? I just. My head, it is confuzzled...

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My personal reasons being that I believe the show ended perfectly and I didn't need anything more from it.
Agreed. Well, nothing I can't get from fanfic, anyway!

Yeah, there's a lot of insanity going on in S8. And I actually think Angel-is-really-the-villain could work, but I doubt they'll do it the right way. *is skeptical*

I actually think Dawn/Xander could be super cute, but most people are all EWWW! about it. And I think there's quite a few hints in S7 that it could go that direction, too.

It's very confuzzling. I hope your head recovers!

[identity profile] ladyofthelog.livejournal.com 2010-01-08 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT. I AM PERTURBED FOR SO MANY REASONS.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this comment!
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[personal profile] cordykitten 2010-01-08 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No clue what brought that up; just one entry today, didn't hear anything till then.
Yuck.. found the link now.

How good I don't read the comics because I'm going to ignore any kind of BAngel.

*edit* Going farther back on my F-List I see it mentioned.
*edit 2* There's a new link.
Spoilers, naturally. Heavy, very heavy ones.

http://buffyfest.blogspot.com/2010/01/confirmed-angel-is-twilight.html
And interview here..
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24354
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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for all the info! I appreciate it!

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[identity profile] queenofdenile.livejournal.com 2010-01-10 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
My positive spin on this?

They've already put Riley in the comics, now Angel. Spike has yet to be seen, at all, except in one of Buffy's sexy threesome fantasies. Other than that, he's not there.

This means they're saving him for something MUCH bigger.

At least that is my hope.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-12 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This means they're saving him for something MUCH bigger.

At least that is my hope.
If that is what they're doing, I hope it's worthy of him. I'd rather see him kept away than bring him back the wrong way. *worries*