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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-04-07 02:48 pm

Oh, God

I had sworn I wasn't going to do the link-to-whedonesque thing anymore. I'm sure it annoys y'all that I constantly have to scurry back here to get reassurance. I really am going to try to do it less in the future.

But this one time, I have to get my rage out. I'm feeling sick to my stomach and shaky.

Someone on whedonesque just made the most ridiculously sexist, homophobic, patronizing, self-congratulatory comment about shipping ever. And I am ANGRY.

Quote:

Saying that everything has to come down to some ship is kind of insulting. I know you probably weren't meaning to be. But.

I'm not a shipper. You can tell by how I'm a heterosexual adult man. I just like a good story.

Shipping itself is, in my humble opinion, not just stupid but destructive to the fandom. The story is what is what it is (and I'm including the TV show in this), but I can't comment on what actually has happened because it'll offend people who think things should be another way.

Let's say I decide that Riley should have been Buffy's true love, and regardless of what happens in the show, I get angry when she hooks up with anyone else. Doesn't matter that the events clearly show that that's not happening. Im'ma get pissed anyway. See how stupid that would be?


[eta] EMPHASIS HIS.

I...just...WTF?????

I called him on it. How much you wanna bet that he'll pull the whole "oversensitive" card?

It's okay. I will link the hell out of Derailing for Dummies. Never fear.

[identity profile] local-max.livejournal.com 2010-04-08 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA. Hetrosexual men like good stories, and women and homosexual men ship! Because heterosexual men aren't distracted by all that love or sex crap, no sir! Really terrible, for implying that all shippers are weak and then that women and homosexual men are weak too.

You did good by telling him off. I think Simon was reasonable in simply telling the guy not to make statements like that, and move on, though the comment still remains on the board (which is a shame, and reflects poorly on the site).

I am happy that KingOfCretins immediately identified himself as a heterosexual male adult shipper afterwards.

I promised myself I would stay out of Whedonesque after this issue came up, because it is simply getting too crazy over there. That, and I am actually (don't hurt me) enjoying the comics, and want to stay away from the negativity, even the completely reasonable kind.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-04-08 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Really terrible, for implying that all shippers are weak and then that women and homosexual men are weak too.
Exactly. His disdain for anyone who isn't a straight, adult man is just jaw-dropping.

Thank you!

I think Simon was reasonable in simply telling the guy not to make statements like that, and move on, though the comment still remains on the board (which is a shame, and reflects poorly on the site).
Agreed on everything.

And yes, KingofCretins got some points from me.

I promised myself I would stay out of Whedonesque after this issue came up, because it is simply getting too crazy over there. That, and I am actually (don't hurt me) enjoying the comics, and want to stay away from the negativity, even the completely reasonable kind.
I think this was wise. And I wouldn't hurt you! It isn't for me, and I do think there are some issues with it, but I have no problem with you liking it.