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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2009-07-14 12:33 am

Warning: the following link may make your eyeballs melt and then bleed out of your eyesockets

You know how people can just be awful? Like horrifically, horrifically awful, so much so that you want to go beg the Cylons/vampires/Romulans/Dalek/Reavers to adopt you so that you will no longer be associated with humanity and can then dare to hold your head up in public?

Yeah. This article will make you feel that way.

My friends and I have been having quite a discussion about this on facebook, mostly full of expletives and ellipses, as nothing less can convey our rage/disgust/horror/fury. More and more people keep popping up to rant about it where the link is posted on my wall, and only the fact that all of my (lovely, lovely) friends are as enraged/disgusted/horrified/furious as I am is keeping me from spontaneously combusting.  Also, the Jezebel article writer refers to the readers of the original article as "Mr. Penis," which makes me giggle (I am twelve.  So sue me).  I thought I would share the experience with y'all.

So, go forth, my innocents, and let your minds be corrupted by the ways in which a magazine entitled Ask Men advises the men of the world to tell their girlfriends that said girlfriends are fat and should lose weight.

I'll be here, waiting for you to come back with your fury.


Oh, look!  How convenient!  I have an "enraged" option on my moodtheme!  And it involves shirtless!Hyde!  Well, that made my night slightly better.

[identity profile] gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wow...that's just...special...

I recall being out for drinks with this guy I'd had a bit of a thing with. He was complaining about his ex-wife, who was really very abusive to him, but then he mentioned how she just "let herself get fat" after marrying him and such.

I looked down at his pudge, raised an eyebrow, and told him he's not one to talk.

I'm honestly floored by this stuff. Seriously. I can't fathom guys feeling the need to exert that type of control over their partner. I can't fathom guys minding so much if their partner puts on some weight. I mean...curves are fun!

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I will never understand why guys think they all deserve to be with supermodel gorgeous women no matter how completely unattractive they themselves are.

Oh, wait. Yes, I do. It's called sitcoms.

I looked down at his pudge, raised an eyebrow, and told him he's not one to talk. Did you really? I would be thinking it, of course, but my deeply ingrained niceness would never let me actually do it. This makes me love you more.

It's the sheer level of manipulation and control issues here that blows my mind.

[identity profile] gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you really?

Ah, yeah I did. My natural inclination towards being a smart-ass has kinda overcome my ingrained niceness at this point in my life. :)

It's the sheer level of manipulation and control issues here that blows my mind.

Word.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
WTF!?! Someone needs to punch the guy who wrote this in the groin. It's not like he's going to need it anyway considering he's such a flaming asshole that he probably scares off women with his jackassery.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! Awesome comment! And oh so true.

But the worst part is, there are plenty of women out there who society/friends/family/the media have worn down so completely that they don't think they deserve anything better, and those women would probably put up with this guy, despite his douchebaggery. And that just breaks my heart.

[identity profile] aisalynn.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about wanting to be adopted by Daleks or Reavers (shudder) but after reading that article I'd have no problem with tossing the author into a crown of either one of them.

Or both.

Reavers first.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I tend to hyperbolize.

But yes. Yes to the tossing. Yes.
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[identity profile] eldritchowl.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
That is honestly disgusting. How does this man take himself seriously and/or function in society?


But, the worst part of all this is that I know people like him, who think that pulling this bullshit is okay. And we're stuck in this stupid culture that makes women feel like complete crap about themselves.

I wish this Mr. Penis a future full of very strong, very angry women.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
But, the worst part of all this is that I know people like him, who think that pulling this bullshit is okay. And we're stuck in this stupid culture that makes women feel like complete crap about themselves. Yes, exactly. I would hope that any woman he treated like this would leave him...but I know that there are women who are so broken down by what everyone is telling them that they would put up with it because they think they can't get better/don't deserve better. I know women like that, and it just shatters my heart.


I wish this Mr. Penis a future full of very strong, very angry women.
I second this.
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[identity profile] eldritchowl.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
jfdlksajfa the more I think about this, the angrier I get. I mean, when a magazine is basically instructing readers on how to get away with emotional abuse, something is severely wrong with the world.

It's like, hmm, before you go about sabotaging chairs and emotionally abusing your partner maybe, JUST MAYBE, a warning bell should go off in your head telling you that the problem in this "relationship" is maybe not with her weight but with your fundamental lack of respect for another human being?

...and when I break out the quotation marks of ballooning anger, I know that it's probably time to stop ranting.


I just want to take those women (men too) and somehow tell them that they're always, always worth it. And take the abuser and rattle some tiny bit of sense into them. :|

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
the quotation marks of ballooning anger This is my new favorite phrase ever.



I just want to take those women (men too) and somehow tell them that they're always, always worth it. And take the abuser and rattle some tiny bit of sense into them. :|
Me, too. Me, too.

[identity profile] that-september.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
Sickening. Absolutely sickening. This isn't just a feminist issue, this is a normal, functioning human being issue. People who advocate shit like that have some unbelievable issues. This reminds me of a headline I saw on the cover of a men's magazine once: How to Cheat on Her Without Her Finding Out!

These chauvinistic excuses for men need to stop publishing trash and consider growing a conscience - perhaps even a soul.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This isn't just a feminist issue, this is a normal, functioning human being issue. I actually had a line along these same lines when I originally wrote this post, but I was so incoherent that I took it out. I'm so glad you said it so succinctly and accurately.

This reminds me of a headline I saw on the cover of a men's magazine once: How to Cheat on Her Without Her Finding Out! I remember you saying that! And it stuck with me and on occasion I think about it and the anger just bubbles up....

Seriously. I just want to scream, "Where is your SOUL?"

Hey! I used to have that icon! Poor Dean.

[identity profile] caboca.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Sabotaging chairs is subtle now? Nice. Then I read: www.askmen.com/top_10/dating/top-10-sings-shes-a-social-leper.html and, oh, my god, did I giggle. Fanfiction! Collages! Odd eyebrows! Cats! Oh, dear. I scored 3.5/10 at social leprosy, though the 0.5 is my roommate's fault (and her collection of stuffed animals on MY bed, because I'm just that nice.) Possibly this is meant to be ironic and failing at it? But then, the love flabs didn't sound ironic.

Exterminate!

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why did you have to link me to that? Why did I have to follow it?

while she may look sexy and the short-term satisfaction may be great, the long-term fall out could mean isolation from your friends, depression and even death. WTF? Why on earth would any of these things keep you from your friends? And I'm pretty sure that death is the long-term fall out of being human.

“His $50k a year, soft belly and love of beer made me love him even more.” This right here is what infuriates me so much: a woman has to be perfect, sexy, and not have any even slightly embarrassing habits in order to "deserve" a man. But a man--any man, no matter what he looks like--"deserves" a supermodel.

I'm only a 2--though I don't know just how crazy my eyebrows are; they're kind of Brooke Shields-y, but I think proportional to my face.

Regardless! I now hate humanity!

Exterminate is damn right!
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[identity profile] ubi4soft.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
"How to tell shit to your girlfriend, feel good about yourself and still get any" probably is more appropriate title.

In the words of Buffy Summers, the author is a pig

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Just...yes. To all of it.

[identity profile] callmepatsy.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, for some reason I'm not filled with incoherent, blinding rage. I mean, is it news that there are some men out there who are assholes and who really only want to date Barbie? Any woman who needs a boyfriend so badly she would put up with any of those things needs to maybe not be in a relationship until she gets her own head in order.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you're right. I know there are lots of terrible, awful men (and, for that matter, women) out there. It's just that rarely do I see such a consolidation of passive-aggressiveness, manipulation, control issues, and misogyny in one place. It's the sheer intensity of it that blows my mind. I could easily see many guys (including guys I know) pulling maybe one or two or even three of those things, but the fact that one human being came up with all ten? Kills me.

Any woman who needs a boyfriend so badly she would put up with any of those things needs to maybe not be in a relationship until she gets her own head in order. Well, you're right on the one hand. But I know a lot of women who have been so broken down by society that they really believe they deserve all this. That's what makes me the saddest.

[identity profile] ava-leigh-fitz.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, there are no words for the assholery going on here. Seriously? Sabotaging her self-esteem, promoting unhealthy attitudes towards food and their own body? That's true love right there. I hope the author's girlfriend read this and told him to fuck off, for the good of humanity. This shit is not okay.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope he's never gotten laid, not even once in his life.

I don't know what your icon is from, but it's making me giggle.

[identity profile] ava-leigh-fitz.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I seriously hope so but ultimately doubt it. I imagine he's the smooth, vaguely good looking asshole type.

It's from Generation Kill, it was a miniseries on HBO that was adapted by a book (of the same name) on the first Marines that went into Iraq. It's really worth watching and the book's really good too. It's by a Rolling Stone reporter who accompanied them for several months during the initial invasion.
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[identity profile] ineffort.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, Ask Men is the absolute worst. Like I can't even begin. I can't even muster fury - just general WTF and GTFOness. These fools don't get my fury.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
These fools don't get my fury. That's probably a much healthier attitude. They don't deserve it.

I'd never heard of this magazine before, for which I can only be grateful. From here on out, I count myself among the corrupted.

[identity profile] inkstainedskin.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
WTF? I haven't even read it yet and I'm already enraged!

[identity profile] ekisa-himani.livejournal.com 2009-08-09 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Lurker de-lurking here. Both the original article posted and the one caboca linked infuriated me. I had to go downstairs and give my dad a hug just to restore my faith in men.

The first one is just... Your Buffy "grrr" icon is very fitting.

The second one really got to me, because apparently women aren't allowed to be geeky or indulge their inner child. This bit in particular had me going "what the hell?!":

"Be extra cautious if there’s a female celebrity poster. That means she wants to be that woman. Not that she aspires to be her, but she wants to cut off her skin and wear it."

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-08-09 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Whenever I read something like that I have to remind myself of all the genuinely wonderful men in my life.

I keep that Buffy "grrr" icon around for a reason. It gets a lot of use, unfortunately.

I am both geeky and indulge my inner child all the time, which I suppose means no man will ever want me. *snort*


"Be extra cautious if there’s a female celebrity poster. That means she wants to be that woman. Not that she aspires to be her, but she wants to cut off her skin and wear it."
That one in particular made me go WTF?????