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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2014-05-15 08:12 am

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It just blows my mind that this keeps happening--SM treats its employees like shit, so much so that the employees take legal action to get away from them--and yet the company (and the industry at large) learns absolutely nothing. They didn't learn anything from Shinhwa, they didn't learn anything from Han Geng, they didn't learn anything from JYJ, and they won't learn anything from Kris. Nothing's going to change at SM or industry-wide until the law forces them to change or until they can't make money off of mistreating dreaming young people, and I don't foresee either of those things happening any time soon. I'm glad Kris is getting out while he can. I'm sure he didn't make the decision lightly.

What I really want to know is whether the female idols are treated better or (more likely) they're treated so much worse that they have less leverage (emotional or otherwise) to leave when they want to. Because it's significant to me that only guys have gotten out.

[identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com 2014-05-15 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You've said it all.

#team idols

Forever most worried about the girls.

[identity profile] madcap-shiny.livejournal.com 2014-05-15 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
can you tell me more about shitty things sm's done/the reason these guys are leaving? i have no doubts the idol industry is rotted to hell; i just haven't heard about specific cases and i'm curious.

[identity profile] iwantchocopie.livejournal.com 2014-05-15 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd think that after all this time--and multiple similar lawsuits--they'll learn *sigh*

(oh god I can't take that crying Myungsoo mood gif I'm going to start crying *clings to you*)

[identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com 2014-05-16 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
ITA completely with everything you are saying. I know dumb ass fans are gonna be all, "This just shows how perfect soshi is!" and I'm going to rme to the ceiling. Frankly, the only response these events elicit is to, like you, wonder about the treatment of female idols and what they put up with.

It's interesting to read this entry right above another on my flist taking the "Kris is being selfish for ditching the other 11" POV. Even if he wasn't my bias, I'd find that POV kind of naive and overly simplistic. Like you said in a comment, legal issues take a long ass time. And I wonder if the leak and subsequent media circus accelerated things more. I don't believe that any of this was carefully calculated and timed, b/c I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would choose to subject themselves to this.

The amount of good faith K-pop fans have in shady companies (especially SME, who have a history of this sort of thing) boggles my damn mind, especially to the extent that they attack idols for speaking out against it.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2014-05-16 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
No lies detected.

*sad icon usage*

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/amaelamin_/ 2014-05-16 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
jyj wasn't mistreated tho, they left cos of money. always when shit like this goes down it amazes me how people seem to think SM is the ONLY company out there that abuses their idols. all of this is industry-wide and every single damn company out there deprives their idols of sleep, proper diets for growing bodies, healthy perspectives on body image and privacy, plus directly or indirectly restricts their access to their parents and friends. people really need to wake up. SM is shit and will continue to be shit as long as fans keep giving them money. (interesting how nobody ever complains about how bad SM is until something huge like this happens and yet lap up punishing concert tours, multiple comebacks, back-to-back events).