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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-10-05 09:14 am

Hey, y'all!

Get your Xander!hate on! [livejournal.com profile] eleusis_walks is doing his 30 Days of BtVS, and even though there are many, many topics I strongly disagree with him on, he is always thoughtful and awesome and interesting. And the things I do agree with him on? I agree violently.

Like our mutual hate for the ultimate Nice Guy Xander Harris. He basically lists every single hateful thing that Xander ever says/does and I am glorying in my hate. He also has a love-post devoted to Anya, which I haven't gotten to read yet, but I know is wonderful because anything involving Anya is wonderful. And [livejournal.com profile] eleusis_walks loves Dawn and Cordy and Jenny and basically a ton of awesome ladies, so I forgive him for not loving my boy and my girl enough. ;D

So join the hate fest! Or if you like Xander...well, I would like to hear why. Because it is beyond my understanding.

Re: I don't have it in me to be a hater today (maybe ever, but definitely not today)

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-05 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait. I thought of more things to say.

One thing I like about your perspective on Xander, is that it answers a question I had (and posed on Eleusis_Walks's journal)--I couldn't tell whether Xander is intentionally portrayed as a textbook Nice Guy (TM), or if he just is a Nice Guy, and the writers were just oblivious to what that meant insofar as entitlement to women and insidious brands of misogyny.

It didn't make sense to me that they'd create a character with literally every single Nice Guy symptom EVER on accident. But it also didn't make sense that the misogynist would get to be the hero.

BUT! Your interpretation makes sense to me in that A) The writers weren't oblivious. and B)He does make some solid changes.

I think I may be with Lauren in that I don't know if they quite get me there--his character development is just a little bumpy for my taste in S6. But, as long as I feel like there was a purpose and a plan--it helps me not to hate. Because I am SO left-brained, it's ridiculous. I NEED ORDER. Order!

Okay. That's all.

Re: I don't have it in me to be a hater today (maybe ever, but definitely not today)

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-05 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I love how we have the same reactions to EVERYTHING. Except I am not as left-brained as you are.