lirazel: An outdoor scene from the film Picnic at Hanging Rock ([misc] twilight for the fail)
lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-08-26 10:03 pm

I'm waiting....

Replies to my last few posts are forthcoming (I've loved all of y'all's thoughts!), but first:

I am disappointed in y'all! No one on my flist has posted about the new Season 8 preview? I need y'all's thoughts! Your fury or excitement! Where's the drama?

Come on. With the way y'all are not talking, you'd think you had actual lives or something.

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I guarantee you Cordelia will never get acknowledged in these stupid comics except to be shit upon. Guarantee.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I fear you are right.

Man, now I'm wanting to write post-NFA fic full of Cordy/Angel and Buffy/Spike love, with lots of Cordy!worship.

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
DEAR GOD WOMAN YOU KNOW I REQUIRE THIS IN MY LIIIIIFE.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, in my head!canon, Cordy and Spike are snarky BFFs who give Angel a hard time (out of love, of course--he needs teasing!) and can banter for hours. That's always been what I want for them. I may have written pre!Cordy-and-Spike-are-BFFs!fic already.

So I might as well write it, right? At some point. I will do that.

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
YES YES YES YES YES. I NEED MOAR GOOD C/A FIC AND YOUUUUU ARE GOOD. SO LET'S GO.

[identity profile] shipperx.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, I agree (and I hate that I agree.) AtS as a whole has been expunged from existence in this comic and it BLOWS!

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
why am i not surprised at all. btvs as a whole is an exercise in ignoring ats narratives and character arcs. and in order for buffy/angel to work, you have to do that, so of course the comics do it too.

i am so glad i never read these things. i'm just going to sit and rage without any images of buffy and angel having glowy space sex burned into my head.

okay, that one tumblr showed me so now it's burned into my head, but you get the point. :D
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (dragonrider by maharet83)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-08-27 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
*clings to 'After the Fall' - the original run, those written by Brian Lynch - and refuses to acknowledge that s8 exists*

(WHO did Angel talk to for months when he was being knitted together with magic and had no one there? CORDY, dammit! *kicks Joss*)

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Even those are a mixed bag for me because I don't like the 'Fred was dead all along, Illyria was just impersonating her' thing, because that is so totally not how I see Illyria-Fred in-text on the show. Fred is so clearly in there. But eh, it's open to interpretation.
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Angel (atf) stake by Macey Acey Linds)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-08-27 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
But eh, it's open to interpretation.
I think that's the distinction. I liked AtF overall, but will happily concede that some things could have been done differently or better. (I, too, would have liked Fred to actually be there, because I think that would have made for a much more interesting story.) However, everyone was in character and the story was a logical continuation of NFA. My problems with s8 aren't the story, it's the fact that nothing makes *sense*.

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I mean, on some level I will never be satisfied with a post-NFA story because I think the brilliance of NFA is in its refusal to give any firm answers. So anything that tries to 'answer' NFA is doomed to fail on some level, and that is part of why I have never managed to finish a post-NFA fic.

But AtF at least remains pretty in-character and is respectful of the characters? And the plot is sensible except for when Illyria regains her true form, and that isn't until the end so at least the beginning is great.

S8 is just a mess from the word go.
elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Not Fade Away by amavel_bel.)

[personal profile] elisi 2010-08-27 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah I mean, on some level I will never be satisfied with a post-NFA story because I think the brilliance of NFA is in its refusal to give any firm answers.
Oh the same here! But I thought AtF was on the whole a nice, solid story - like really shiny fanfic with pictures - and I like post-NFA fic.

Totally with you on s8! And people keep saying 'Oh but it's going to make sense in the end!' which just makes me laugh. (The only thing that bothers me about the preview is the dog - it should totally have been a talking pie!)

[identity profile] eleusis-walks.livejournal.com 2010-08-27 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I like post-NFA stuff I am just impossible to please. At least I know it, haha.

It will never make sense and people need to just let it go. It's not actually a 'season eight', you can't just jump mediums like that and retain text integrity. It's expanded universe material at -best-, a la Star Wars.