So.

[lirazel]

I watched the first few episodes of Caprica. I found myself mostly reading Jezebel articles while I did so, which is a pretty good indication that it wasn't working for me and I wasn't connecting to it.

I was amused by the idea of the Adamas being in the mafia. That was pretty epic. And it's nice enough to look at. But I felt nothing for the characters. Plus, it's got the same over-the-topc serious nature of BSG, except that in BSG it's forgivable because ALL OF HUMANITY HAS BEEN DESTROYED and also Gaius was around to funny things up. Over-the-top grim for its own sake (or to prove how this is Serious! Art!) usually doesn't work for me.

[eta] I don't mind dark or angsty, though: keep in mind that S6 is my favorite BtVS season. I just have to care about the characters themselves not because they're angsty but for other reasons and then I can suffer with them through the angst. If that makes sense.

So now it's your turn to convince me that OMG I HAVE TO WATCH THIS SHOW. That it's worth my time and energy, that there are characters I'll actually care about. Also that it won't make me feel like the show thinks I'm stupid--or a potential terrorist--for being religious (it seemed to be heading that way to me).

Note: James Marsters is hot and evil in it is a good and convincing point, but it isn't enough. There's gotta be more. Also, you know how I am: if there's something I can ship hardcore, I'll probably be there.

Also: more answers to the fic-meme to come! I love you all and will tell you which of your fics I love, never fear!

Comments

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

I like that--the things to struggle against.

I think the reason I hate Willow!logic so much when I usually like to watch artists play around with morality (but not in real life, so much) is that I feel like I was supposed to forgive Willow for everything because she's cute and sweet, and I'm all, "No. I still hold her accountable." I feel that I can safely assume that this is not the case in what's-his-face's case, so I'd be more open to it. :D

Oooh! No trope is good!

[ava-leigh-fitz.livejournal.com]

I mean avatar!Zoe has to cope with being an avatar and having someone else's memories that feel like her own as well as pretending not to exist. Fair dues in my opinion. Original Zoe? Her problems consisted of her parents being parents and her dad working for the government. Not exactly much to rail against.

I definitely don't think that's the case with Daniel. You can understand what he's doing and why he's doing it but it doesn't make the basically mental torture okay and on some level he sort of knows that. Also in the case of the deaths caused by the MCP theft, you eventually get Amanda's reaction - though understated - and you know that no matter what, what happened isn't okay.

I know right? I mean, she's smart and talented, she stood up and admitted her daughter's fault to the entire planet, she stands up on national television to say that despite that she loved her daughter and combined with what we find out about her own background, it's amazing she manages to keep herself together for so long.

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that definitely sounds cool, what they're doing with Zoe.

You can understand what he's doing and why he's doing it but it doesn't make the basically mental torture okay and on some level he sort of knows that. I kind of love that.