lirazel: An outdoor scene from the film Picnic at Hanging Rock ([misc] must be stopped)
lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-03-04 06:06 pm

grrrr...

People, please tell me to stop reading random people's reactions to the new S8 comic. I've loved what some of y'all on my flist (and, by extension, some of the people on your flists) have had to say, but there are people justifying evil all over the internet, and I cannot handle it. It just makes me so furious, and I want to engage all of them, and that will lead to my life being sucked away, and I could be doing way more constructive things like writing angsty Spuffy babyfic for [livejournal.com profile] seasonal_spuffy and beta-ing for my favorite people.

Tell. Me. To. Stop.

In other, happier news: BUFFY SUMMERS. DONNA NOBLE. TAMI TAYLOR. AERYN SUN. JOAN HOLLOWAY. VERONICA MARS. PARKER. AND OTHER AWESOME WOMEN. DOMINATING FANDOM STEEL CAGE MATCH.

PLUS: MY ICON. YES.

Also, I'm watching Wizards of Waverly Place (yes, I'm lame, but I have a massive girlcrush on Selena Gomez), and OMG SELENA GOMEZ AND DAVID HENRIE. IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR ACTORS PLAYING SIBLINGS TO HAVE SO MUCH CHEMISTRY. STOP IT NOOOOOOW. YOU'RE MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

[identity profile] ohwaluvusbab.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
What the hell is the deal with Buffy/Twilight? I've been on vacation the last few days so have therefore missed the wank.

Dear Lord, I don't think I realised how strongly opposed I was to Buffy and Angel getting together again until I read that forum thread. *vomits everywhere*

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, hello you! I should have known that you'd sail in and share my RAGE. It makes me feel better!

[livejournal.com profile] 2maggie2 actually has some thoughtful, interesting posts on the whole thing (I like her!). If you want more, though, [livejournal.com profile] su_herald and [livejournal.com profile] petzepellepingo have done pretty good jobs of rounding up links at various places around. Also: for extra RAGE, check out whedonesque!

Dear Lord, I don't think I realised how strongly opposed I was to Buffy and Angel getting together again until I read that forum thread. I know exactly what you mean. This whole things is reminding me of just how much I hate their relationship. Like...I'm trying to look at this from an unbiased, non-shipper position...and I'm failing. *sigh*

[identity profile] ohwaluvusbab.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Happy anytime to be ragey :)
Though, in truth, I can't actually get very ragey because... laughing. too. hard. I just can't take it seriously, at all. That one poster on the thread waxing poetic about the Transcendent Bangel Love is making my goddam day.

You know what, this latest wank has done something in clarifying my feelings about B/A. I've always been ambivalent, liking/disliking it in equal measure. But now... yeah, no. It's officially ruined for me now. Serious issues aside, I don't know how I'm ever going to re-watch their scenes again and keep a straight face. *shakes head*

The best thing about this whole business is that it makes me proud, not to mention GRATEFUL, to be a B/S shipper. Lord knows we were never *subjected* to such 'transcendent love' ;D (Though, I'm sure we'll get crapped on soon enough.)

Off to read linked posts!

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It is funny. It really, really is. Especially because Joss is making fun of Smeyer...while doing the exact same thing! [livejournal.com profile] 2maggie2 things Bangel is being set up to be subverted; I support this theory.

But now... yeah, no. It's officially ruined for me now. [livejournal.com profile] _jems_ brought up "I Will Remember You" the other day and pointed out to a degree I hadn't really considered just how much Angel makes decisions for Buffy and seems to relish that he can never be with her (that guy is so into self-flagellation), and it made me think about them some more and it was the nail in the coffin (heh) for me.

Serious issues aside, I don't know how I'm ever going to re-watch their scenes again and keep a straight face. *shakes head* Oh, I know!

And YES about being gratefully B/S! I know exactly what you mean!

Do let me know what you think as you read. For some reason, I can't let this go, and your insights are ones I really value (even if they're just along the "hey, this is hilarious" or "Now I'm ragey!" lines!).

[identity profile] ohwaluvusbab.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: The inequality of Buffy and Angel - Yes. I have a lot of appreciation for the B/A romance in S1-3, but after that... Do Not Want. I like their friendshippy scenes (Yoko Factor, Chosen after the kissage), but I have a strong aversion to them in IWRY and Forever, even though they're two episodes I know the Bangel faction use as proof of their true love. (IWRY is just unrelenting cheese. The ice-cream in bed scene? Dear God. I HOPE I never experience such transcendent love. The episode is good only for SMG's fabulous crying. As for Forever, I'm good with them right up until they start making out feet away from Joyce's grave. Classy. /bitch)

And yes, I read 2maggie2's posts about the subversiveness and agree. Actually, her comments about appreciating the complex, interesting Bangel over the schmoopy Bangel is where I stand. So... Maybe they're not totally ruined for me after all. Glad tidings.

And I am finding that thread a very interesting read, even though I have no idea what people are banging on about half the time. It's good to see there appear to be only a couple of lunatics, I guess. I do feel highly sympathetic to the majority of B/A folk - this development is *not of the good*.