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Opinions, please
1. I want to write William fic. Angst, poetry-riddled William fic. *huggles the poor boy*
Discuss.
2. I am considering watching Season 3 of Skins.
Discuss.
3. I absolutely fail at lj.
Discuss.
Discuss.
2. I am considering watching Season 3 of Skins.
Discuss.
3. I absolutely fail at lj.
Discuss.
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Are they your OTP?
Totally. Yeah, judging from the pilot, I wouldn't have thought so, but they gave a seemingly very superficial relationship a lot of meaning.
I totally loved Chris/Jal and Sid/Cassie too. Another first for a show - I actually like all the main ships!
if Sid/Cassie had ever had a chance to actually happen onscreen
Well, technically they did happen, albeit in a very tumultuous fashion. I love the way they ended the series ambiguously, with such hope that Sid would find Cassie.
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Yeah, judging from the pilot, I wouldn't have thought so, but they gave a seemingly very superficial relationship a lot of meaning. Exactly how I feel.
Well, technically they did happen, albeit in a very tumultuous fashion. I liked the ending a lot, too: it worked for me. But I really felt like I never got a chance to see them together. By the time they finally get their feelings figured out the first time, it's the end of the first season. Then Cassie's gone the bulk of the S2, then Sid and Michelle happens (EEEK!), and then Cassie takes off. I never got to see them be couple-y, you know? It made me sad. I like to see how couples work together, which is probably why I hate rom coms since they tend to end right when the people admit to their feelings. But hey! YMMV!
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Yeah, there did tend to be more angst than happy with those two, save that time they made out in front of the class in Jal's episode (?) in season 2, just after they'd gotten back together.
then Sid and Michelle happens (EEEK!)
HAH. Yeah, pretty much.
I hate rom coms since they tend to end right when the people admit to their feelings.
I hate rom coms too, though that's usually because they often suck ;}
I like to see how couples work together
Actual canon couples (as in, after they've gotten together) usually fail to hold my interest, sadly. Watching Skins makes me wish that canon pairings elsewhere were executed as well as, say, Tony/Michelle.
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That is very, very true. Though they don't have to suck, as the '30s and '40s can show you.
Actual canon couples (as in, after they've gotten together) usually fail to hold my interest, sadly. Watching Skins makes me wish that canon pairings elsewhere were executed as well as, say, Tony/Michelle.
I have lots of thoughts! Brace yourself!
Nothing on earth makes me happier than Coach and Mrs. Coach on Friday Night Lights or Wash and Zoe or Marshall and Lilly on HIMYM. Probably because I grew up surrounded by incredibly strong marriages, I'm endlessly fascinated by the little dramas of established relationships: there's a safety that comes in knowing that (my parents or) Wash and Zoe are never going to cheat on each other; it frees you up to explore all the other dynamics of a relationship. I absolutely love that.
But what I mean about seeing people together is just watching them relate to each other and figuring out how they would be when the question of romance isn't hovering over them constantly.
Take Buffy and Spike (heh!). There's not even a question that they'll be together in S5: he may want it, but she doesn't, and they know where they stand. In S6, they're only together physically; in S7, they have an absolutely gorgeous relationship, but neither one of them is willing to really approach it from a romantic angle.
But in all those times, they're constantly interacting, and I see how they are together, so it's very easy for me to write something like "Life in the Present Tense" or III because I know how they'll interact when they are together, even though I never see an actual relationship.
Same with, say, Kara and Lee (even though I'm not that invested in that relationship) or Adama and Roslin or someone like that. Sure, there was always tension there, but I also saw them interact on levels that weren't dominated by sex/romance. Same with John and Aeryn on Farscape, which I'm watching right now. I saw them be friends, so I can know how they might have been together. I like that.
With Cassie and Sid, however, I never felt like I saw the two of them interact enough to figure out how they would work together, not really.
I do think it takes more talent to sell an established relationship, but I think it's just cheap to say that they aren't as interesting as the question, just like I think it's cheap (and wrong) to say that bad guys are more interesting than good guys.
Too rambly?
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I actually agree with everything you say. It's not that I don't find canon couples interesting, it's just that I usually find the execution uninteresting. Especially if it's a pairing that has had lots of build-up, but once the two characters are together, it's like the writers don't know what to do with them anymore. That was more what I was referring to.
Nothing on earth makes me happier than Coach and Mrs. Coach on Friday Night Lights or Wash and Zoe or Marshall and Lilly on HIMYM.
As it turns out, I really like Wash & Zoe too. Marshall and Lily are a little bit too cute for me, in the same way that I found Willow and Tara cutesy to the extreme. And I found W/T boring once they became a couple too. I think I just don't have much patience with relationships that are purely romantic. With other pairings you name, e.g. Chris/Jal, Buffy/Spike, Kara/Lee - I am invested in them because of this: I also saw them interact on levels that weren't dominated by sex/romance. So, say, if the latter two had ever gotten their acts together, I would definitely have been interested, because their dynamics are already... well, dynamic.
With Cassie and Sid, however, I never felt like I saw the two of them interact enough to figure out how they would work together
I get ya. Yeah, I imagine they'd have a very passionate relationship, full of screaming arguments followed by lots of great sex ;) But also plenty of moments of comfort and peace with each other. See, I'd probably have found that interesting.
Probably because I grew up surrounded by incredibly strong marriages, I'm endlessly fascinated by the little dramas of established relationships
This is probably where we differ, because I just didn't. I've also never been in a serious relationship myself, so I guess ultimately I just don't identify with them in fiction. OTOH, volatile friendships such as S/B and K/L, I can relate with ;)
OT, but FNL and Farscape are shows I mean to start watching eventually. I'll probably have thinky thoughts then.
/rambling