Further proof that I am influenced by peer pressure if only when it comes to memes...

[lirazel]

Everybody else is doing it.  And I have lots of pretty icons!  Go here and pick one out.  Give me the keyword.  I'll ramble about it for a bit.  Hopefully it'll be interesting.  Rinse, lather, repeat.  (I'm serious about the repeating.  Pick more than one.)

Comments

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

As for the last one, I'm still not entirely sold on Dollhouse yet. I'm struggling with what exactly Joss is trying to say about it and also about the fact that you can't really root for any of the characters because they're either entirely messed up and amoral or they have no real personalities.

Except that I do, totally and completely, root for Victor and Sierra. Echo really bores me a lot, but these two are just so wonderful. Enver is an amazing actor. And his affection for Sierra seems so pure that I've begun to ship them. I had bunches of problems with Sierra's arc in "Need" (which was otherwise a really great episode), but the relationship between Victor and Sierra there just works for me.

So I wanted a V/S icon and this one has pretty colors! And interesting cropping! And a cool lack of focus! It's my one Dollhouse icon.

(Actually, that last bit isn't true. I also have a really funny one with Tahmoh that says "Tahmoh says suit up." But that one is so silly that I don't really think it actually applies to the show. It's more a Tahmoh-is-pretty icon.)

[visualthinker11.livejournal.com]

this icon appeals to me for the same reasons really- victor/sierra was the first ship i really liked on the show, and one that came to me as more or less a complete surprise once they began bringing it up. (there are other dynamics i like, like the relationship between echo and boyd (who reminds me SO much of giles in those moments), and the bits between topher and dr. saunders, but none of them have had quite the same pull for me as victor/sierra).

can i ask what problems you had with 'need'? i'm just really curious to hear your thoughts on that.

(there is nothing wrong with tahmoh-is-pretty icons, as far as i see it. that icon and your caption on it seriously makes me giggle. (...as opposed to making me giggle seriously...))

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Basically, I don't like the treatment of Sierra. She's presented as VICTIMVICTIMVICTIM and it's always sexual. She's always passive and victimized, and I find that really problematic. I just feel like yelling at Joss: "We get it already!"

And "Need" was worse because the whole point of the episode was that each character needed to face something about his or herself and do something about their problems. So Echo needed to take care of others. November needed to deal with the death of her daughter. Victor needed to connect with Sierra. I can buy all that.

But Sierra has no moment of power or insight. Victor punches out some guy on her behalf. That isn't her doing something. She needs to be rescued? I don't like that. It makes her too weak.

I really hope that in the future we'll see more of her as a strong person. She's the most doll-like of all the dolls; I want to see a real person behind all that.

Does that make sense?

[visualthinker11.livejournal.com]

oh, wow, you're right (aka it makes perfect sense). i mean i obviously caught the VICTIMVICTIM in the rape storyline and in needs, but i think i never really connected the two because i was distracted by all the 'active' personalities in between.

come to think of it, is it just me or are the women in dollhouse particuarly weak? caroline has spirit but she's makes herself a victim by rushing in (at least in my opinion). and then if november isn't a pitiful character i don't know who is. maybe this is done to provide a really strong contrast with their 'active' personalities; to show how different the characters can be under imprint...but it still seems very problematic. maybe their treatment of newly-released november will let them present a strong real female and remedy the problem...?

...sorry for the random meta rambling. my turn to ask if it makes any sense!

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

No, I think you're absolutely right. The only strong woman on the show is Adelle, and she's so corrupt that of course that strength isn't a good thing. I would have no problem with her being so strong if only there was a good woman who was also strong, but this equates strength with evil too much for m liking.

I'm really hoping he'll do better with it in the next season. Maybe with Saunders/Whiskey?

No! I love meta rambling! Ramble away! And perfect sense, actually!