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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2012-12-29 09:02 pm

input please!

So I wrote a letter for the Give-Sungyeol-More-Confidence-Project, but I'm also wanting to send something ~arty. And so I fooled around in gimp with some pictures, and I want y'all's input on them. Any good? Embarrassing? Suggestions? Which ones do you like best? You don't have to know anything about kpop, just know what you like when it comes to art.

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Anything I should send, or should I just stick with the letter? I appreciate y'all's feedback.

This is also a time for me to express once again how FRUSTRATING it is that 95% of the good pics of these guys are fantaken and fans won't let other fans edit their pics, not even with credit and when it comes to fanworks I REALLY MISS WESTERN MEDIA FANDOM A WHOLE LOT because everyone encouraged everyone else to use their stuff. *wistful sigh*

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I thought of you when I made the yellow ones! And I'll have to see if I can make one work as an icon--it's not the right shape at the moment, alas, but I'll see what I can do! Especially if you're going to get Yeol to bat his beautiful lashes at me like that!

Thank you thank you for the input!

I'm emailing everything in--my letter that I handwrote then scanned into the computer, [livejournal.com profile] infinitewish's translation all neatly typed up (and I now know what my name looks like in hangul! How cool is that?), and then one of the pictures. The organizer is then going to print everything out in good quality and color and send it in all together.

[eta] I'm really glad you agree with me so vehemently about that. I sometimes feel like EVERYONE else thinks it's totally acceptable/the way things should be and I'm like WHAT IS GOING ON? Your plan to take all the pics/vids and share them with everyone is the most beautiful thing!

Edited 2012-12-30 03:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] aerintine.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'll see what I can do! \o/ /shameless demandy cheering


I hope you'll show us a copy of the finished product - I want to see your name in hangul!



I sometimes feel like EVERYONE else thinks it's totally acceptable/the way things should be and I'm like WHAT IS GOING ON?

The whole thing is absolute, utter bullshit. When I make my plan happen I will probably have to have an escort with me so all the bullshitters won't try to grab my camera once they realize I'm taking away their entitlement to their "toys." Ugh, it just makes me so mad. THAT IS NOT WHAT FANDOM IS. You do not to claim other people as your property. Not even their likenesses. Not even if your camera cost you a month's pay. Not even if you have a really cool computer and worked really hard to upload the photos/videos. The idols' faces still don't belong to you. The idols still don't belong to you. You do not get to commodify their existence and claim ownership of it. Period.

Honestly I'm tempted to make what I want with whatever I want, giving credit of course, and if anyone doesn't like it they can go spin. Whine about having to close your sites. Watch me weep. If you share things instead of placing them under lock and key there's no reason to ever need to hide them or shut anything down.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
That icon looks familiar! :D (I think that that was a fantaken pic because I made that batch before I knew the ~rules, and so most of them were, but I'm not going to tell you to take them down or anything EMBRACE IT).

I will! After I send it in and everything, I'll probably flock it.

The thing is--most of the reasonable, more grown-up fans on tumblr 100% support it and it's only the whinier, more entitled fans (who are helplessly immature, but most of them are super young, so I'm hoping they'll outgrow it) who speak out against it, and I feel like I must be on the wrong side! But then I remember how fandom has ALWAYS worked in my experience and I remember that I'm not crazy.

THAT IS NOT WHAT FANDOM IS.

AMEN.

You do not get to commodify their existence and claim ownership of it. Period.

What makes me even MORE sick about it is that there are quite a few sites that are specifically set up for Korean fans only, and I think that's just gross. Like, it's so elitist--they know that there are all of us out here who will never get to see the boys live and we live for pics and video and they don't want to share it with us and WHY? THERE IS NO GOOD REASON. Ugh, I hate it.

(Also I have feelings about how all this is very much against the essence of art, too, but I think you've heard all that.)



Honestly I'm tempted to make what I want with whatever I want, giving credit of course, and if anyone doesn't like it they can go spin. Whine about having to close your sites. Watch me weep. If you share things instead of placing them under lock and key there's no reason to ever need to hide them or shut anything down.


I...may have done that. With this icon (and the others like it). I wanted it really bad and it's from a fancam. There isn't anything on the youtube page about not screencapping, so I did. And I made an icon. And the person who filmed it's name is credited on my userpics page. BOOM.

[identity profile] kwritten.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
The idols still don't belong to you. You do not get to commodify their existence and claim ownership of it. Period.

Can we put this on a tshirt?! Really though. You can hear my heart breaking.

[identity profile] aerintine.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
YES we will put it on a t-shirt.


*squishes you* poor tender kelpy heart.

[identity profile] kwritten.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)


*squishes you*

[identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com 2012-12-31 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
OMG JAMIE WHAT ON EARTH IS THAT ICON

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE HAVE MERCY PLEASE

(SOB) I CAN'T WITH MY FEELINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] kwritten.livejournal.com 2012-12-30 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
[eta] I'm really glad you agree with me so vehemently about that. I sometimes feel like EVERYONE else thinks it's totally acceptable/the way things should be and I'm like WHAT IS GOING ON? Your plan to take all the pics/vids and share them with everyone is the most beautiful thing!

I SECOND THIS!!!

/ugh

There should just be more love in the world and less possessive-jealousy. It makes my heart hurt.

Also. I love everything this comment chooses to be. And you both.

XOXO

[identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com 2012-12-31 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
EFFING SCREAMING

(what is this post and what is it doing to me)

You are sending in a handwritten letter?

EXCUSE ME WHILE I LOSE ALL MY SANITY OVER THIS

You have no idea what you just did. MY PENMANSHIP KINK LAUREN. YOU ARE DESTROYING MY ABILITY TO BREATHE. Like. THIS PROJECT COULD NOT BE ANYMORE PERFECT AND FUCK HOW DO I EXPRESS MY RAGGING EMOTIONS

I'm brain-dead. Bravo.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2013-01-01 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha! I'm so glad it made you happy! Even if he never ends up reading it, it'll have been worth it to see you freak out like this!

[identity profile] vergoldung.livejournal.com 2013-01-03 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so predictable when it comes to this, alas. Nothing gives me as many feelings (except maybe hair - it depends).

<3