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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2011-05-24 10:15 am

because we all know that i live to ship

Comment with any ship (romantic or platonic or maybe even non-existent!) from a fandom that you know I have some knowledge about, and I will rant about aforementioned ship. This may be incoherent gushing or exclamations of disgust, depending on your ship of choice.

Caveat: If you say Buffy/Spike, I'm probably just going to link you to my manifesto.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2011-05-24 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you. I love you. ♥

The triangular support of my BtVS obsession are Buffy-Spike/Buffy-Dawn/Spike-Dawn, as I mentioned in your journal earlier. Three-way tie for most important relationships to me. You know this.

First of all, I lovelovelove the reading of Dawn's narrative as an adoption narrative. It makes it so much more powerful that Dawn is an intruder into Buffy's life, someone she never asked for, and that both she and Buffy react to this really negatively at the outset. BUT BUFFY CHOOSES TO LOVE HER. This is so huge to me. Love is a choice. It's always a choice. This is my definition of love. And Buffy chooses to love Dawn, knowing full well who she is. And she gives her life for her.

I think that, to Buffy, Dawn represents everything that's good in her life, everything that's most human, and the fact that Dawn didn't start out as human makes this SO POWERFUL to me. As much as it makes me sad, it also makes total sense that Buffy neglects Dawn in S6, because of course she does: she's lost her hold on her own humanity, so of course she doesn't know how to interact with Dawn.

But things get better in S7, and I love the little moments they have. On the other hand, there was NOT enough Dawn in S7, and there was NOT enough sister moments. And I think the most angry I've ever been at television is "Empty Places." I've fanwanked it away that Dawn, at least, wanted Buffy out of the way so she wouldn't die again, but I seriously can't even think of DAWN KICKING HER OUT OF HER OWN HOUSE. It...does not compute. I mostly try to ignore it.

But in my future!world, they come back to a forgiving place and are very close. And Dawn goes off to college and studies lots of dead languages and probably becomes a Watcher, but she and Buffy email almost every day and call each other once a week and Dawn comes back for all the holidays and they are sisters and tease and pick at each other and cry together for the people they've lost and are generally fantastic. Because they're the most important people in each other's lives. Period.

:D
snickfic: Buffy Dawn weird love is better than no love (Buffy Dawn)

[personal profile] snickfic 2011-06-04 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! I knew this was a 'ship on whose fabulousness we could agree. *g*

On the other hand, there was NOT enough Dawn in S7, and there was NOT enough sister moments.

YES. Do you know, I think my favorite Buffy-Dawn moment post-early S6 is that little moment in the middle of S6 when they're strolling down Main St, shopping, I think, and talking about which stores Dawn had stolen something from. It was just so small and trivial and sisterly, and I love it. I so wish there could have been more of that.

And Dawn goes off to college and studies lots of dead languages and probably becomes a Watcher, but she and Buffy email almost every day and call each other once a week and Dawn comes back for all the holidays and they are sisters and tease and pick at each other and cry together for the people they've lost and are generally fantastic.

YES YES YES.

And you know if ever wrote a long rambling Buffy-Dawn Sisters 4Ever fic, I would love every word of it.