Annoyance of the day:

[lirazel]

People who flat-out say that Buffy didn't love Spike despite the fact that she said she did.

She said she did. The only reason we have to believe that she didn't is one thing Spike said, and since when do people believe anything that comes out of Spike's mouth? Boy can speak the truth that no one else will, but he also says a ton of b.s., and everyone knows it.

I just hatehatehatehatehatehate all of these people sitting around telling a woman (and it would be a woman--if a man said, it I think a lot less people would disagree with her) who finds it nearly impossible to say the words "I love you" even to people she regards as family (remember "Intervention"? That's canon) that she doesn't love someone when she said she did.

I don't have a problem with people quibbling over the nature of her love. You can argue that she didn't love him romantically or as much as she did Angel or whatever (I would disagree with the first one and re: the second, I would remind you that, as the_royal_anna says, we don't love in amounts. We love in ways). That's legit. But to say, flat-out, that she didn't love him even though she says she did takes agency away from Buffy in a way that I am entirely uncomfortable with and that DRIVES ME CRAZY, OKAY. If she had said she loved Riley (she didn't, did she?), I would be pissed at people saying she didn't love him, either. Uuuugh why does this annoy me so much?

Comments

[jennylayne.livejournal.com]

I'd truly like to believe that Buffy did love him. But, I don't think it's unreasonable for me as an audience member to want a single unambiguous moment, one that leaves open an avenue instead of arriving after that avenue is already closed. One that isn't haunted by the spectre of plausible deniability.I'd truly like to believe that Buffy did love him. But, I don't think it's unreasonable for me as an audience member to want a single unambiguous moment, one that leaves open an avenue instead of arriving after that avenue is already closed. One that isn't haunted by the spectre of plausible deniability.

Wow. Can I just say that you have hit the nail EXACTLY on the head in every single way with your(entire)comment here, but particularly this.

You have articulated exactly how I feel about the Buffy/Spike relationship, wish I had the talent for expressing it that you do but thank you for saying what has been floating around in my head for several years and making it so clear. :)