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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-10-16 05:35 pm

Several requests for help

1. For the past year or so, I've been toying with the idea of watching Gen 2 of Skins. I thought Effy was really interesting (though her relationship with Tony was by far the best thing about her), but I've heard that Gen 2 was basically a hot mess. So--your thoughts. Worth it or no? Also, do we know anything about Gen 3?

2. I've started working (again) on my gender-swap cast of Veronica Mars. Some of the casting was quite easy (Veronica, Wallace, Kendall), but there are a few people I'm having trouble with.



Cassidy

Mac

Jackie

Vinnie

Hannah

Trina

The last three are not at all necessary, but I want to include them if I find someone fun. I'm also wanting to stick close to their real ages, so no 26-year-olds if possible, kay? And I'm sticking with the first two seasons, because I don't actually watch the third season.

For the Echollses, I just considered swapping--letting Harry Hamlin play Lynn's character and Lisa Rinna play Aaron's, because half the fun of them in those roles is that they're married in real life. But now I am unsure.

I am also torn on my Logan choice. Half the time I think she's glorious, the other half, I think I need to find something new. It's hard to find talented youngish people! Same with Leo and Meg.

Feel free to make any suggestions about any character, but I am quite content with a lot of my choices.

3. Who would want to help me make a pretty picspam for this (silly) project? Because I don't own photoshop or anything like that, and I don't know how y'all do the pretty stuff. It is beyond me, and I am in awe of your powers.

4. Firefox has decided it hates me. It keeps freezing for a few seconds, then unfreezing for a minute or two, then freezing again. It makes it very hard to do anything, especially download things. Anyone got any advice?

And now I need to go find something to eat and then beta some stuff for people.
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[identity profile] magisterequitum.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Have you ever seen the WW gender cast switch? It's amazingly epic.

Firefox is such a bitch sometimes.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I have! SO GOOD!

It really is.
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[identity profile] magisterequitum.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I know right? I love it. It's so fantastic and it makes me think so much about how things could have been.

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[personal profile] snickfic 2010-10-16 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Do these youngish people all have to be appropriate ages now? Because I could maybe see Anne Hathaway as Leo - and she'd have been the right age circa the filming of VM.

TBH, I don't know any of the young faces nowadays. Nope.

ETA: Also, I see no Weevil anywhere on that list...?
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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm aiming at now, really.

I didn't mention Weevil or Keith or Duncan or whoever because I've already cast them!
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's worth most of the characters. Lord knows I ranted a lot about season 4 ...but I'm glad I got to know them.

I've started working (again) on my gender-swap cast of Veronica Mars.
WHAT WHAT I LOVE YOU.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know. I will definitely keep that in mind.

I AM SO EXCITED! IT'S GONNA BE EPIC! IN THE LOGAN KIND OF WAY!
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, I keep seeing Michelle Tratchtenberg as girl!Cassidy. She's probably too old now but post S7, when she was playing that evil Georgina girl? Yeah.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
SHE IS 25 NOW!!!! I had no idea she was older than me--but I guess it puts my memories of Harriet the Spy in perspective. I won tickets to see that in the movie theater, and I still have the beach towel I also won with Michelle's face on it!
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
WHAT, NO WAY. I'll always remember her as the cute little girl going along with Little Pete Wrigley's neighborhood shenanigans.

...Jonathan Groff as boy!Trina. Probably typecasting after Glee, but I love seeing good actors play horrible actors.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
OMG I LOVE THE IDEA OF HIM AS TRINA. THANK YOU.
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
IMAGINE HIM DURING THE SCENES WHERE TRINA MANGLES SHAKESPEARE. Talk about Hilarious in Hindsight.

Ahhhh, now I'm excited for the unveiling of your girl!Logan!

[identity profile] korinna.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
4. I'd recommend switching to Google Chrome! But if you don't want to/don't like Chrome, you could just try reinstalling Firefox.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I will give it a try. Thanks so much!

[identity profile] that-september.livejournal.com 2010-10-16 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I love this genderswap idea. Can I ask who you selected for Veronica and Wallace and Kendall? And Logan?

Firefox is annoying sometimes. :( Unfortunately, I am not tech-savvy, but I hope the problem fixes itself.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not telling yet! I want people to be surprised when I post it! But I'm thrilled to know that you like the idea!

It really, really is. And I'm hoping if I ignore it long enough, the problem will go away?

WE ARE SO CLOSE TO DEATHLY HOLLOWS BEING RELEASED. HOW CAN WE CONTAIN OUR EXCITEMENT?

[identity profile] that-september.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, fair enough. I will be kept in suspense!

AND OMG OMG I KNOW. I just...ahhh. A MONTH! I really, really cannot wait. I will be in line for the midnight premiere, dressed-up like Hermione, rarin' to go. I have high hopes for these movies, mostly because if they are bothering to separate them into two parts, they better be good. What's your plan for the premiere?

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not gonna lie--mostly I'm not telling people because if I don't, I'll create suspense, and then I'll make myself actually finish it because I have a responsibilty to satisfy peoples' curiosity! ;D

MIDNIGHT! If I possibly can (and I may well be able to) I will be there then, too! If not, FIRST THING AFTER WORK. Being an adult with actual responsibilities stinks. But we'll see--I might be able to do it.

I love the idea of you dressed like Hermione!

I have to admit there's one thing I'm worried about. I adore Rupert Grint--he's the world's biggest cutie-pie!--but I'm worried about whether he'll be able to do the emotional heavy-lifting the role's going to require this time around. Like, the scene where he destroys the locket. EASILY one of my faves of the series. And I'm gonna be heartbroken if it doesn't measure up to my expectations. I'm very much hoping he'll surprise me and be excellent.

[identity profile] that-september.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's a great plan! I know I'm excited! :)

Haha, I hope you don't have to work! Screw responsibilities.

I'm such a nerd. I'm trying to put together a Hermione costume for Halloween, specifically because I wanted to be her for the premiere. I can't wait.

I totally know what you mean about Rupert being able to pull off the horcrux scene, but I think he can handle it. I remember him in Driving Lessons, and he had some emotional stuff there, too. He really did a good job, though the locket scene is a little more intense. The Silver Doe is like my favorite chapter in DH, except for the one about Snape's memories, which I also hope they do justice.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's great! How convenient--the premier and Halloween! I love it!

It's definitely my favorite chapter as well. I feel like something's wrong with me--I have zero investment in Snape. But everyone I know loves him. What is my deal?

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
OK. I don't know if I understand the genderswap project. Do you pick different people to cast in the roles? So, like, Wallace would be played by Rosario Dawson (she's too old, really, but you know what I'm saying)?

Because any which way--I want to come down hard in favor of including Vinnie Van Lowe. He's one of my favorite people. And if he's gender swapped, what about Jane Lynch playing him? OR what about fellow The State cast member, Kerri Kenny?

Also, about your Firefox woes--I switched to Google Chrome because Firefox kept crashing on me. It's been pretty good so far. But it didn't import my bookmarks correctly, so I had to manually go through and re-add a bunch of bookmarks. That was a pain.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's the idea. Here is an example. They're way fun.

I adore Vinnie. And Jane is AWESOME in pretty much every role! I will consider that! I don't know Kerri Kenny, but I will look into her.

I think I'm gonna give Chrome a try soon. Thanks for the advice!

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh! This casting thing is fun. I wish I knew actors' names. Or that imdb didn't suck so hard now, making it impossible to look people up. That would make this easier.

Did you ever watch Reno 911? Because Kerri Kenny played Trudy Weigel. She's SO funny. And she even looks like Vinnie a little bit.

I have a weirdish suggestion: What about Kat Dennings as Logan? I know--it seems weird, but hear me out. She's moody and brooding just like him. She talks in that mumbly way without moving her mouth too much just like Jason Dohring does. And it always seems like she's a stew of sarcasm and emotions--just like him. But she has downsides too--she looks like an outsider, not a popular golden-boy type. So... maybe not. And the coloration and body type don't quite match well.

Who else? Let's see. What about Dakota Fanning as Cassidy? Too sweet? That girl has range--I think she could work Cassidy.

Mac seems like she should be easy--some cute emo dork boy. But I'll be darned. I can't think of anyone. She needs a Michael Cera, but cuter and with dark hair and glasses and sarcasm that's a little less deadpan. I'm tempted to say Dimitri Martin. But... I don't think that fits quite right. I don't know. I'll have to think this over.


[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Imdb is basically my nemesis right now.

I have never seen that show, but I will watch an episode to see if she works as Vinnie! Yay!

I like Kat Dennings, but for some reason she feels a little too old to be Logan? I will think on it. And as funny as I think Dimitri Martin is ("Hello...ladies"), I think he's too old to.

The age thing is really tripping me up because I don't know so many of the younger kids. I'm tempted to start casting from the Disney Channel, but Selena Gomez is the only one over there that I really adore. *sigh*

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh! I know you said you already had a Keith--but what about this idea: Allison Janey. Boom! You're welcome.

That age-stuff is tricky. I was trying to think of indie-ish kids at the cusp of high school and college, so I was looking at stuff like Juno, Whip It, and whatnot. But I can totally see how that would end up too old. I just have no idea who is high school age these days. The Disney kids always manage to creep me out (though I do love Selena Gomez--she does those cute Borden commercials).

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I already have her in another role! Though I adore her forever!

It is very tricky. Selena Gomez is my girlcrush--I watch Wizards of Waverly Place just for her.

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
WHAT. Who? Don't tell me. I want to be surprised.

Have you ever seen Drop Dead Gorgeous? Allison Janey is like perfection in that movie. The whole movie is hilarious--but she is SO great. Ellen Barkin is really great in it too.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I want to surprise you!

I haven't! But I must watch it now!

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Gah! That movie is SO funny. It will rock your world. Seriously. Netflix it immediately! It's a movie emergency!

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
The age thing is really tripping me up because I don't know so many of the younger kids.

Does the age really have to limit choices down to the Disney channel? Kristen Bell was 25 playing 16. Jason Dohring and Percy Daggs were 22 when the show started. Francis Capra was 21. Tina Majorino (Mac) was the youngest at 19 playing 16.

Or maybe there's fewer well-known early twenties folks? Hmm.
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[identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
What about Artie from Glee as dude!Mac? It's an idea . . .

I'm so bad with actors' names. And seem to be mentally casting primarily Glee people in my head. This isn't too good, is it?

Stockard Channing as Keith! That's not Glee-related, and I can see her doing Keith's sense of humor . . . is she too old, though? Are we going to be like typical Hollywood and say an actress is too old?

[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I thought of Artie, too! And the guy who played McLovin in Superbad. But I thought they might be too dorky. Artie might be able to pull it off.

[identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not good at gender swaps. I go "Oh, dude!Mac! I know who should play him! That kid who was Beaver from . . . oh, wait . . ."

See?

But actually, another show the actress is in has a kid who might work . . . look up the actor who plays the oldest son on Big Love . . . maybe some Mac-ish possibilities.

And I would have to know who you're thinking of for chick!Logan if I were to help you. Ooh, for Leo, what about Lea Michele? Kinda similar look, and she'd be acting her age, wouldn't she?

And I support Jane Lynch in anything, even theoretical gender-bending recasting of canceled television shows, so if you set her to play Vinnie, I will second that choice.

I'm now really curious who you've thought about for Logan, because Katee Sackhoff as Kar Thrace is the only female character who has ever come close to being a "resident psychotic jackass," and when a girl does it, i mean it in the best sense of the phrase. Why am I having flashes of Glee's what's-her-face, Quinn Fabray in that role? Does "female!resident psychotic jackass" automatically translate to fabulous bitch in my mind?

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA I LOVE IT!

I will look him up! I've never watched Big Love.

I will pm you about chick!Logan. I actually really like the idea of Lea Michele! I will think on it!

JANE LYNCH IS AWESOME.

I actually have Quinn in another role!

[identity profile] shamoogity.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Gen 2 of Skins is all over the place. In S3, I liked the girls a lot and, was bored by the guys. In S4, everyone was pretty much a mess, with a few nice moments sprinkled around. One of the worst finales I've ever seen though. I'd say maybe watch the first few eps and if you're not feeling it, don't bother pushing through the rest.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
That's really great advice. I think I'll do that. Thank you!

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2010-10-17 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
OOH. GEN 2. Well, you know how I feel. Season 3 is meh, but I actually was a fan of S4. Wildly unpopular opinion, but, I know that [livejournal.com profile] quinara agrees with me! I'm still more attached to Gen. 1 overall, but Gen. 2 is worth it for Effy, and a couple others. I really ended up loving Cook and Katie (who are the most obnoxiously obnoxious characters to start off with, if that interests you). Just to throw some names out there. IDK, there's a good chance you'll end up hating it all, but it can't HURT, right? :D

Gender swapping! ♥ I am completely stumped for those people too. I love the idea of Michelle T. as Cassidy though. And am curious cat about your female Logan. AM EXCITE.