I'm waiting....

[lirazel]

Replies to my last few posts are forthcoming (I've loved all of y'all's thoughts!), but first:

I am disappointed in y'all! No one on my flist has posted about the new Season 8 preview? I need y'all's thoughts! Your fury or excitement! Where's the drama?

Come on. With the way y'all are not talking, you'd think you had actual lives or something.

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[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

Well, I don't know if I'd call Show!Xander a Marty Stu really. Sure, he's an author insert, but he's never shown as the best thing ever like the comics. In the comics, Dawn's a cheater, Willow is too, Buffy's a thief and doesn't care about anyone, but Xander just went to central Europe, got buff and the girls, even the one who never batted an eyelash at him for 10 years, swoon over him.* I mean, really.

I believe I've raged about ITW before. :D

I'd completely forgotten about that.

Ooh, that issue pissed me off big time. I mean, aside from the Buffy crap. It's the condescension there, you know, like passing judgment? But that's another thing I hate about those books is the seeming (to me, anyway) seediness to the sex talk, like it's behind Buffy's back. Same with Willow asking about what sounds she makes. The show was full of innuendo, but the character talked about was always involved in the conversation, if that makes sense.

*This is one of the things I meant with Joss acknowledging something is silly and thinking that makes it OK. It doesn't, of course. Having Buffy call space-fraking ridiculous in ToYL doesn't make it less stupid. Having Willow tease Buffy about bankrobbing doesn't make it not completely OOC. Having Kennedy joke about homophobia doesn't make Buffy's instant bisexuality an less out of nowhere. Having Buffy say she finds porn unappealing, then having her in a porn issue is more disturbing than heh-heh. And so on. :|

Sorry, got a little ranty there. Apologies penny-lane, mollyvanders and elisi. Guess I had something on my chest.

[elisi]

but Xander just went to central Europe, got buff and the girls, even the one who never batted an eyelash at him for 10 years, swoon over him.
I don't blame this on Xander, TBH, but on OOCness on Buffy's part. Does that make sense? (Actually I blame the writers.)

The show was full of innuendo, but the character talked about was always involved in the conversation, if that makes sense.
*nods* It was laughing *with*, not *at*.

This is one of the things I meant with Joss acknowledging something is silly and thinking that makes it OK.
THIS! So much!

[infinitewhale.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't blame Xander either. I don't blame Angel or Buffy or Dawn or any of them because, yeah, I blame the writers turning him into something he wasn't, same with Buffy, Willow and Dawn. All are pretty much crammed into the stereotypes they subverted on TV.