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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-05-22 08:54 pm

A quick follow-up post

So, the consensus on my last post seems to be that I should try Torchwood first (and then West Wing! Yes, I'll get to that! Back off! ;p). [livejournal.com profile] madcap_shiny has suggested such a heterodox move that it makes my chronology- and continuity-loving heart tremble:

Watch S2 first.

Now, her reasoning for this is that S1 really is really bad and that I won't really like it till S2 and that by watching S2 without the bad taste of S1 in my mouth, I'll enjoy the whole thing a whole lot more.

I trust her, but the idea of this petrifies me. But what think you, flist? Is this wisdom or folly?

I just want to take this opportunity to say that for some reason, I love it when people tell me which characters/pairings I'm gonna love on a TV show before I watch it. Y'all are almost always right, and it fills me with glee. The predictions for TW thus far are: Owen and Tosh. I suspect this will be proved correct. :D My personal hypothesis is that I will continue to not be a fan of Jack and might even like him less after this show.

Also, to those of you--whoever you are--who wrote me love notes for the meme, y'all are awesome and adorable and creative and wonderful. I adore you.

[identity profile] madcap-shiny.livejournal.com 2010-05-23 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
HATE IS A STRONG WORD. I BEAR AFFECTION FOR IT. I just feel that it is, quality-wise...bad. IDK, I have not in truth seen every episode of it yet (I KNOW I KNOW OMG SECRET FANDOM SHAME), but the following is sort of my feel:

a) the writers do not so much have a good handle on the characters at all. Uuugh, Owen, I love your s2-self, but why you gotta be a grody pseudo-rapist in the first season? And Gwen, omg, you are my bb girl always, but what is with the cheating and asking your SO to forgive you and then retconning him to forget it anyway? I could go on but basically I just feel the showrunners didn't have half the grasp they do on everybody later on. (Plus there is kind of a frequent case of Dumb For the Sake of the Plot? I don't have examples off the top of my head for this, but it is just another ~feeling~ I have. I JUST HAVE A LOT OF THOSE)

b) it's so OVER-THE-TOP DRAMATIC sdajslfa;;;;;; I mean okay, Torchwood has always been both dark and cracktastic and I love that, but there is a line between that and unintended comedy. And they cross it. And then go back and jump on it just for good measure.

SO THOSE ARE MY (ADMITTEDLY BASED ON LIMITED KNOWLEDGE) REASONS AS TO WHY THE FIRST SERIES IS NOT QUITE UP TO PAR.

[identity profile] ava-leigh-fitz.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Not to be a comment creeper but YES THIS THIS SO MUCH. I LEGIT CANNOT STAND GWEN IN THE FIRST SEASON BECAUSE I LOVE RHYS SO MUCH AND SHE'S SUCH AN INFORMED ABILITY AND IS AWFUL TO HIM. This is relatively remedied in S2.

Feelings, I have them.

[identity profile] madcap-shiny.livejournal.com 2010-05-24 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
OMG IZI FOR REAL. I LOVE GWEN, BUT I ALSO LOVE RHYS, AND WHAT SHE DID TO HIM WAS PRETTY BAD, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE WRITERS' ATTEMPTS TO SELL HER AS THE MORAL CORE OF THE SHOW. Much like everything else, their relationship (and Gwen as the moral core!) in s2 is vastly improved, I feel. Also, I love their interaction in COE.