lirazel: Emma from the 2020 adaption with the text "handsome, clever and rich" ([film] best blessings of existence)
lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2020-03-18 07:45 pm

Actually you know what? Thoughts on Emma as ace

So in the book and in most versions of the film, I read Emma as asexual and on the aromantic spectrum. If it weren't for Mr. Knightley--her friend, someone she's known all her life and who loves the same people she loves, a good man whose world is totally intertwined with her own, someone who both challenges her and who she is totally comfortable around, someone who makes her laugh (and who she can make laugh), someone she trusts absolutely--I think Emma would have stayed comfortably single for the rest of her life. Knightley doesn't think that, and maybe Jane Austen didn't think it either (who knows), but that's where I land. Only someone with a precise mixture of qualities could ever make Emma fall in love, and George Knightley is the one person in the world who embodies all of those qualities. If it weren't for him, she would never be "tempted" (as she says) to fall in love and would have been totally happy as a single woman. (I can see her having a permanent female companion of some kind, but I do think it would be platonic. I think she'd be very happy with a female partner, though it would be difficult to find someone who was strong enough a personality to resist her tendency to rule others but also laid back enough that they wouldn't fight all the time.)

In the 2020 film, I do think Emma is sexually attracted to Knightley. But again, I think that's a situation where he is the one person in the world she could ever be attracted to. She is still firmly on the asexuality spectrum--I guess you'd call her demi, but she is the next thing to straight-up asexuality as I read her. I definitely get a kind of "What??? Is going on????" sense from her after their big dance when she realizes she's attracted to him. She's excited by it, but it's also clearly unfamiliar to her. And [personal profile] ladytharen points out that when she kisses Knightley for the first time (and I love so much that she's the one who initiates), there's a sense of experimentation about it. She kisses him, sits back with a "huh" look on her face (I definitely noticed it this time!), and appears to be contemplating whether that works for her. I totally get the impression that she's never thought about kissing before and whether she would like it. But she's in love with this man (even though she never thought she'd fall in love) and she knows that kissing is what people in love do, so she gives it a try. She doesn't seem to have an immediate YES moment, but I think when he kisses her back and she gets used to it, she realizes that, yes, I like this, I want to explore this more. I definitely see their future sexual relationship as very much being about Emma figuring out what she does and doesn't like (Knightley would like anything, so long as it's Emma). And I think she would develop very strong likes and dislikes and be good about communicating them. Maybe she's still not super into intercourse. Maybe she is. But either way, she's going to have figure out how she feels about it, and the lovely thing is that you totally believe that Knightley would be along for the ride.
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[personal profile] elperian 2020-03-18 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
though it would be difficult to find someone who was strong enough a personality to resist her tendency to rule others but also laid back enough that they wouldn't fight all the time.

This is basically just Knightley! And maybe Miss Taylor/Mrs. Weston but that's a mother-daughter relationship in practice.

the lovely thing is that you totally believe that Knightley would be along for the ride.

Which is why I feel so comfy with this ending! I don't know that Austen would have thought of her that way, but then again the ace terminology is only a century or two old (older than the last few decades, but at the same time not likely to be something Austen may have heard of).
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[personal profile] dollsome 2020-03-19 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I really love this reading of Emma! I especially love that note of that first kiss being so experimental -- I loved that energy in the scene and how the whole kissing scene kind of felt like a dance where they were figuring out the steps together and taking turns leading. It's always so fun to get a kissing scene in a movie or show with that much nuance as opposed to just being the generic "And then they kiss to sweeping music so we can check it off the list!" type of scene.
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[personal profile] gryfndor_godess 2020-03-19 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Love this! :D