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Y'all, I have so many problems with Catholic theology and the institution of the Catholic church, but monks and nuns are consistently the best (like, seriously, if I was Catholic, I think I would make such a great nun).
Oh, My Hand: Complaints Medieval Monks Scribbled in the Margins of Illuminated Manuscripts
[You don't need to, really. A dull pencil is the worst.]
[which I choose to read as: APPRECIATE ME, DAMMIT. I PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS.
[translation: forgive me my typos. Either that or it's sarcastic]
[Gross.]
[I feel you, bro.]
[I will be using that phrase ALL THE TIME.]
[Frankly, that sounds like poetry.]
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upupa_epops, if you would like to talk about LM Montgomery in the comments, I would approve of that most heartily.
Oh, My Hand: Complaints Medieval Monks Scribbled in the Margins of Illuminated Manuscripts
New parchment, bad ink; I say nothing more.
[You don't need to, really. A dull pencil is the worst.]
I am very cold.
That's a hard page and a weary work to write it.
Let the reader's voice honor the writer's pen.
[which I choose to read as: APPRECIATE ME, DAMMIT. I PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO THIS.
This page has not been written very slowly.
[translation: forgive me my typos. Either that or it's sarcastic]
The parchment is hairy.
[Gross.]
The ink is thin.
Thank God, it will soon be dark.
Oh, my hand.
[I feel you, bro.]
Now I've written the whole thing: for Christ's sake, get me a drink.
St. Patrick of Armagh, deliver me from writing.
[I will be using that phrase ALL THE TIME.]
While I wrote I froze, and what I could not write by the beams of the sun I finished by candlelight.
[Frankly, that sounds like poetry.]
Writing is excessive drudgery. It crooks your back, it dims your sight, it twists your stomach and your sides.
As the harbor is welcome to the sailor, so is the last line to the scribe.
This is sad! O little book! A day will come in truth when someone over your page will say, ‘The hand that wrote it is no more.’
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upupa_epops, if you would like to talk about LM Montgomery in the comments, I would approve of that most heartily.
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Yes, and I still don't understand that particular decision. Peter had a wife!
Peter had a wife before he met Jesus, and now widows and widowers are also allowed to take vows. More importantly, priests (and even bishops!) used to have wives before 5th century, and it didn't bother anyone. It became problematic in the Middle Ages, when the children of priests wanted to inherit church property. There're also some theological arguments for celibacy (St Paul, I think?), but, from what I know, it was mostly an economical decision. And now it's tradition...
I don't understand why people feel the need to talk like Catholics aren't Christian
Whoa, really? I live in a Catholic country (over 90% of citizens were baptized in the Catholic Church; of course some of them stopped believing in God when they grew up, but still, the only people I see around me are Catholics and atheists), so I've never experienced anything like that! Why would Catholics not be Christian?
This delights me so!
Yep, LMM is exactly what my TVD angst needs now ;).
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I didn't know that, but that makes sense.
It became problematic in the Middle Ages, when the children of priests wanted to inherit church property.
Interesting. Seems like there would have been better ways to avoid that, but I am glad to know where the thinking originated.
There're also some theological arguments for celibacy (St Paul, I think?), but, from what I know, it was mostly an economical decision.
Paul says that it's better not to marry unless you just can't help it, but he also says in that very scripture that that's his opinion.
Why would Catholics not be Christian?
There's some more conservative Protestants who find Catholicism as a sort of idolatry. Or they just think that Catholicism is so theologically wrong that it doesn't even count as Christianity. Which is just absurd, but there are a lot of absurd people in the world.
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Yes, but this is about Christians in general, and there were also some other passages specifically about priests. For example that a bishop should stop living with his wife when he becomes a bishop.
There's some more conservative Protestants who find Catholicism as a sort of idolatry. Or they just think that Catholicism is so theologically wrong that it doesn't even count as Christianity.
Ah, those. I see the arguments haven't changed since the 16th century ;). Well, to be fair, people who talk about idolatry sort of have a point. Things that sometimes happen when you combine worshiping Virgin Mary with folk culture strike ME as idolatry, and I was brought up Catholic, so I'm used to things like crowned pictures.
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I don't recall anything like that all--I don't think that's in there (I grew up evangelical, so I know most of the Bible back and forth--evangelicals know their Bible, let me tell you. The stories I could tell you about the ways we memorize it!). The rules for bishops/elders require being the husband of one wife (so no polygamy), but there's nothing about anyone leaving their spouse. Except Jesus talking about anyone who won't abandon their family for him being unworthy of him, but that's not connected to any kind of church leadership.
Things that sometimes happen when you combine worshiping Virgin Mary with folk culture strike ME as idolatry, and I was brought up Catholic, so I'm used to things like crowned pictures.
Sure. And that sort of thing is precisely one of the things that I disagree with as far as theology goes.
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And I didn't mean to be argumentative--totally wasn't my intention. Sorry if it came across that way!
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