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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2009-05-27 12:08 pm

Oh, fine! Everybody else is doing it!

Gakked from [livejournal.com profile] aisalynn .  And everybody else in the history of lj

Name your 10 absolutely favorite couples (het/slash/canon/fanon) and ask people to see what trends they notice about your couples. Try to pick different fandoms.

Couple of things first:
+  I'm sticking to TV shows.  Plus Harry Potter.  Because if I open this up to, like, books or movies or something?  It'll never end.
+  My definition of shipping for the benefit of [livejournal.com profile] slaymesoftly (seriously, I love that you got me thinking about this):  couples whose dynamic I enjoy.  I always perk up when they're onscreen together, knowing something interesting will be revealed about one or both through interaction with the other.  Plus a romantic bent (because I have that reaction with, say, Spike and Dawn or Kendall and Cassidy, but there's nothing sexual going on in my mind, you know?).
+  These aren't necessarily in order.  Just in the order they popped into my head (which may tell you something, I don't know.)

1.  Spike/Buffy (Buffyverse)
2.  Veronica/Logan (Veronica Mars)
3.  Ron/Hermione (Harry Potter)
4.  Coach/Mrs. Coach (Friday Night Lights)
5.  Lynda/Spike (Press Gang)
6.  Jackie/Hyde (That 70s Show)  [btw, I will never forgive the showrunners for pairing her with Fez at the end.  These two need each other.  Like really, really need each other in ways I can't even describe.]
7.  Mal/Inara (Firefly)
8.  The Fighting Agathons (Battlestar Galactica)
9.  Blair/Chuck (Gossip Girl)
10.  Victor/Sierra (Dollhouse)  [I'm loving them at the moment.  Who knows whether they'll have staying power?]

And I've only just started watching Farscape, but I have a strong feeling that I'm going to be shipping the hell out of John/Aeryn very, very shortly.

Honorable mentions go to: Spike/Angel (I don't usually view them in a romantic/sexual way, though that's okay sometimes, but I just adoreadoreadore any time they're interacting.  There are no words);  the Doctor/Humanity (ha!); Adam/Elle (my one major fanon pairing); Mac/Cassidy; Rory/Jess; Wash/Zoe.

The thing I've noticed?  ANGST.  I LIKES IT.  (Also, happily married couples.)

[identity profile] moonlightrick.livejournal.com 2009-05-27 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a lot of banter-riven/sometimes-antagonistic pairings you have there ;) Victor/Sierra is just *so* out of place on that list, lol, but they're too awesome to miss.

John/Aeryn is epic. & the Fighting Agathons! <3

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-05-27 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! It's totally ridiculous! I think this might say more about my love of well-written snark than anything else, honestly.

Victor/Sierra is just *so* out of place on that list, lol, but they're too awesome to miss. I know! I can't figure it out. I think it must just be because of the way he looks at her. Enver just puts his whole heart in his eyes. It's the sweetest thing in the history of ever. *huggles the cute, agency-less couple*

Yeah, I'm really loving John/Aeryn. I think it's going to be a lot of fun to become invested in them.

I think the only reason the Agathons aren't on the actual list (and honestly, I might go back and put them on there and drop Adam/Elle to the honorable mentions) is because they're so stable that I can't write fic about them (though this obviously hasn't stopped me from shipping the Taylors). And most of how I fall in love with a pairing is writing fic for them.

You know what, though? I think I'm moving them up.

[identity profile] moonlightrick.livejournal.com 2009-05-27 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well-written snark just makes everything more awesome, pairings included.

Victor/Sierra is just *so* sweet and innocent, in a way that we don't often get to see between two adults--and Need (I think that was the ep name, anyway :p) seemed to support the idea that it'll carry through. Plus, the actors just pwn Eliza all over the place with tugging at your heartstrings, especially Enver.

Fun, with a platter-sized heaping of angst.

The Agathons are ridiculously stable for what they are, but I think I love them even more for that--they're just so, okay, so it's Romeo and Robot, but with total commitment to what they've chosen, and screw you if you were expecting excess drama when that part is simple. Especially compared to the complete mess of the other pairings, you just have to love Sharon and Helo's kickass domesticity.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you that Victor/Sierra is unique in ways others just never get a chance to be. It's so...pure, almost. Yeah, "Need" gave me shippy-confidence. ;)

Plus, the actors just pwn Eliza all over the place with tugging at your heartstrings, especially Enver. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That's the single thing I'm most excited about with S2: more Enver.

Yeah, I've heard that Farscape S3 is like the most perfect angst ever. I'm really looking forward to it.

If I got the choice for my own life, it's the Agathons/Coach and Mrs. Coach/Wash and Zoe kind of relationship I'd choose for myself every. single. time. I'm a huuuuge fan of stable and functional and sweet. With fic, though, I like to explore more antagonistic relationships for some reason. Give me my angst or my snark any day, you know? It's weird.

but with total commitment to what they've chosen, and screw you if you were expecting excess drama when that part is simple. That's so perfectly put. I adore it in every single way. That and "kickass domesticity." Because that's the other thing I love about them (brilliantly realized in your icon). They're not sappy, ever, because they're both too kickass for that. They're just so stable. I adore it.

[identity profile] moonlightrick.livejournal.com 2009-09-15 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the single thing I'm most excited about with S2: more Enver.

In some ways, I think that--if Joss had to make it a hero-focused storyline instead of an ensemble--that maybe he should have done it with Victor instead of Echo. Both because of the serious versatility discrepancy and because Joss was supposedly focusing on "identity" instead of "sex in media." It's interesting, reading some of Joss' articles/watching some of the commentary, and I really don't think he expected the prostitution element to be as *huge* as it is (which, of *course* it is, when those are the types of missions Echo gets), or at least that it would be bigger than the identity issue.

Also: I just woke up for school, and I might possibly not make as much sense as I think I do. As final argument point: Enver.

If I got the choice for my own life, it's the Agathons/Coach and Mrs. Coach/Wash and Zoe kind of relationship I'd choose for myself every. single. time.

Absolutely, me too. Antagonistic relationships are pretty fun to read/write, though I'm such a wimp--if it gets too messed up, I'm usually out of there (with a few exceptions *facepalm*). But the Agathons are good for a strong undercurrent through the story, especially one as messed up as BSG :P

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-09-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Here is someone making that very point, which I absolutely agree with.

Both because of the serious versatility discrepancy and because Joss was supposedly focusing on "identity" instead of "sex in media." Yes, yes, yes. By putting a woman in that role, it automatically becomes about sex. I hate that, but you really can't get around it. And he seems so oblivious to this--he really seems not to have foreseen that people would start talking about human trafficking in regards to it, which sort of seems either totally oblivious or ridiculously naive, especially for someone who self-identifies as a feminist.

No, you were very coherent. Plus: Enver wins any argument pretty much ever.

But the Agathons are good for a strong undercurrent through the story, especially one as messed up as BSG :P Definitely. I was open to a dark ending and lots of people being miserable, but the one thing I absolutely demanded was that family getting a happy ending. Which they did!

[identity profile] moonlightrick.livejournal.com 2009-09-17 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It really was bizarre--at first, his focus on identity came off as naive but almost understandable (if seriously lacking in foresight), but I'm not sure if he's totally gotten it even now. I kept expecting to hear *something* about the trafficking aspect in his commentary; "identity" is very bzuh.

Enver was my best argument point, I think.

I think the writers knew better than to put the Fighting Agathons anywhere they didn't want to be. They take their domesticity very seriously, see: that-Six-Athena-murdered.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2009-09-26 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Just found this link and thought you might find it interesting, since it seems to contradict some of what he's said before but also to address some stuff that needed to be addressed.


I think the writers knew better than to put the Fighting Agathons anywhere they didn't want to be. They take their domesticity very seriously, see: that-Six-Athena-murdered.
I love this statement.
Edited 2009-09-26 02:45 (UTC)