I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that even Parker doesn't resemble Spike in any way; he's much closer to the Angel/Riley side of the spectrum than he is to the Spike side. I'm not saying she's exclusively attracted to that type, but that she sees herself with that type because of her own view of her own gender performance. She's the cheerleader girly-girl; the captain of the football team is the type they date when they have the choice. It about social conditioning.
I really don't believe she thought about Spike as "Xander or Giles". She thought of Giles as "old" and always mocked the idea of someone finding him sexy since he's old and stuffy (which is one of the things I found annoying about her in early seasons, BTW, but I can see why she found him too stuffy and adult)
Again, the point of the story is that Buffy's pushing everything to hyperbole in her head because of how uncomfortable she is. Either you didn't pick up on that or I did a bad job of communicating it, because that was at the heart of what I was trying to say.
The idea that the Cordettes would laugh when they saw Buffy and Spike together just rings untrue. They might be 'horrified' because he looks like bad news, but there's no way they would think he was unattractive
Again, it's really, really bothering me that you think that there's no way anyone can find him attractive. Because, again, I didn't, and I know several other people who didn't either. You're basically saying that there's either something wrong with me or trying to write my experience out of existence. And fourteen-year-old girls do not have the widest definitions of what's attractive. In my experience, they pretty much stick to what they're comfortable with and don't push the boundaries of that.
You can't get a more vapid, shallow, society-conditioned Cordette than Harmony, and she was head over heels in love with Spike.
This is a good point, though the affect of vampirism on that is something that could be debated at length.
Buffy being as upset by his necklace as by his remark about fucking and killing Slayers... I really don't think so.
Again: hyperbole, hyperbole, hyperbole. That's the point. Of course it didn't upset her as much.
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I really don't believe she thought about Spike as "Xander or Giles". She thought of Giles as "old" and always mocked the idea of someone finding him sexy since he's old and stuffy (which is one of the things I found annoying about her in early seasons, BTW, but I can see why she found him too stuffy and adult)
Again, the point of the story is that Buffy's pushing everything to hyperbole in her head because of how uncomfortable she is. Either you didn't pick up on that or I did a bad job of communicating it, because that was at the heart of what I was trying to say.
The idea that the Cordettes would laugh when they saw Buffy and Spike together just rings untrue. They might be 'horrified' because he looks like bad news, but there's no way they would think he was unattractive
Again, it's really, really bothering me that you think that there's no way anyone can find him attractive. Because, again, I didn't, and I know several other people who didn't either. You're basically saying that there's either something wrong with me or trying to write my experience out of existence. And fourteen-year-old girls do not have the widest definitions of what's attractive. In my experience, they pretty much stick to what they're comfortable with and don't push the boundaries of that.
You can't get a more vapid, shallow, society-conditioned Cordette than Harmony, and she was head over heels in love with Spike.
This is a good point, though the affect of vampirism on that is something that could be debated at length.
Buffy being as upset by his necklace as by his remark about fucking and killing Slayers... I really don't think so.
Again: hyperbole, hyperbole, hyperbole. That's the point. Of course it didn't upset her as much.