SM is absolutely NOT the only company to mistreat its idols. just because nobody is suing woollim (for e.g) doesn't mean shit isn't going down.
I would never deny that, and I spoke up a lot, say, during that stretch of time when Infinite H was promoting to the point that Dongwoo was literally hallucinating he was so tired. I think it's important to talk about these things all the time, and I try to do that.
i believe a lot of idols rationalise the abuse they endure because they can't bring themseves to confront the reality of what's being done to them.
Absolutely. And just as much as that, there's the fact that for many of them, it's been their dream all their lives, they've sacrificed huge amounts to get to this point, and the sunk costs are too much to actually face. On top of that, the larger culture doesn't seem to disapprove of what's happening to them, so they must think it's just the price they have to pay. I mean, even in Hollywood, where people have more control over their own lives, you'll see a lot of people claim that celebrities should never complain about invasive paparazzi because "they signed up for it/they knew what they were getting into." People seem very willing to sacrifice other people's basic rights if they think those other people are privileged in some way, and I think that's very wrong.
CCM have T-Ara, right? I had forgotten about them because I haven't heard anything about them in a while and I was never invested in any of their artists on a personal level--yes, I'd definitely agree they may be worse.
I'm aware that other idols/groups have taken legal action against their companies, but I don't know of any who have such a consistent record of their idols having to do so. (But my kpop knowledge is limited.) SM is the biggest, most influential company and I think for that reason they do deserve the biggest backlash--which is not at all to say the others don't deserve the same thing.
i'm just saying that idol abuse is largely ignored unless something like this happens and we all need to realise that even tho SM is one of the biggest culprits they are.not the only one. and the reason why all of this keeps happening is precisely because fans benefit from the abuse of idols - more concerts, more comebacks, more fansigns. i find that just very hypocritical.
I definitely do not disagree with you, but I think that's largely irrelevant to my post? I am pretty consistent in saying that I would prefer less activities if it meant the idols could rest, that I think the way the companies overlook sasaengs and other fans invading the idols' lives is unconscionable, etc. I understand your frustration with some of the larger elements of fandom that are given to rumors and hypocrisy, I just don't think that's got anything to do with me, unless you can point out to me some times when I've done that.
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I would never deny that, and I spoke up a lot, say, during that stretch of time when Infinite H was promoting to the point that Dongwoo was literally hallucinating he was so tired. I think it's important to talk about these things all the time, and I try to do that.
i believe a lot of idols rationalise the abuse they endure because they can't bring themseves to confront the reality of what's being done to them.
Absolutely. And just as much as that, there's the fact that for many of them, it's been their dream all their lives, they've sacrificed huge amounts to get to this point, and the sunk costs are too much to actually face. On top of that, the larger culture doesn't seem to disapprove of what's happening to them, so they must think it's just the price they have to pay. I mean, even in Hollywood, where people have more control over their own lives, you'll see a lot of people claim that celebrities should never complain about invasive paparazzi because "they signed up for it/they knew what they were getting into." People seem very willing to sacrifice other people's basic rights if they think those other people are privileged in some way, and I think that's very wrong.
CCM have T-Ara, right? I had forgotten about them because I haven't heard anything about them in a while and I was never invested in any of their artists on a personal level--yes, I'd definitely agree they may be worse.
I'm aware that other idols/groups have taken legal action against their companies, but I don't know of any who have such a consistent record of their idols having to do so. (But my kpop knowledge is limited.) SM is the biggest, most influential company and I think for that reason they do deserve the biggest backlash--which is not at all to say the others don't deserve the same thing.
i'm just saying that idol abuse is largely ignored unless something like this happens and we all need to realise that even tho SM is one of the biggest culprits they are.not the only one. and the reason why all of this keeps happening is precisely because fans benefit from the abuse of idols - more concerts, more comebacks, more fansigns. i find that just very hypocritical.
I definitely do not disagree with you, but I think that's largely irrelevant to my post? I am pretty consistent in saying that I would prefer less activities if it meant the idols could rest, that I think the way the companies overlook sasaengs and other fans invading the idols' lives is unconscionable, etc. I understand your frustration with some of the larger elements of fandom that are given to rumors and hypocrisy, I just don't think that's got anything to do with me, unless you can point out to me some times when I've done that.