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[lirazel]

So there's shit going down, and I'm like...what if we actually all did move over to dreamwidth? Like, I feel like the entire Spuffy community could actually get together and emigrate over there. The reason I haven't is because most everyone is still over here, you know? But seasonal_spuffy's over there now, which I feel like is our central kind of thing that holds us together? Is su_herald there? And then if we got sb_fag_ends and fantas_magoria over there, too (which they may already be cross-posted, for all I know) plus all of our personal journals (I already have one, I just don't use it except occasionally I import my lj over there as a sort of backup), that would pretty much take care of everything, wouldn't it?

I'd be willing to buy more icons over there and get a paid account and everything if I knew that y'all were going to be over there, too. I'd say about 75% of my flist is from Buffyverse fandom. And I'd be willing to continue to crosspost over here for the people who aren't, and of course I'd want to keep up with people who stayed and stuff.

I'm not saying that this is necessarily something that we need to do. And I remember when dreamwidth first started being petrified that fandom would splinter and I wouldn't know how to find people. But if the majority of us made a decision together, I think it would be workable.

Because the privacy stuff that's going on here kind of freaks me out. And lj seems to have about as much respect for its userbase as tumblr does, which is saying something. I can't say that most of the problems with lj are things that affect me personally, because they don't (not being someone who rps or makes a lot of changes to the css). But privacy is different. That affects all of us. And it's unacceptable that people are being logged into other people's accounts, including those of people who are selling things via lj and whose inboxes contain information on other people's paypal accounts, addresses, etc. The fact that the management here hasn't seen this as something that needs to be dealt with is what makes me think we might be better off on another site.

That said, I know some people don't like dreamwidth, and I've never got a real clear read on why that is? So if you have strong anti-dreamwidth feelings, do you mind letting me know what your reasoning is? I'm sure there are legitimate complaints, I just don't know what they are.

Anyone got any thoughts? Again, not saying that this is something that definitely needs to happen. I'm going or staying wherever the majority of fandom is. But I'm thinking, you know?

Also, the new font in the entry box is FUGLY. The Fug Girls would not approve.

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[gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com]

That said, I know some people don't like dreamwidth, and I've never got a real clear read on why that is?

My reasons for not wanting to move to DW are irrational: I dislike change. I feel like I've just started to get a handle on blogging and fandom and made myself a little niche here, and I feel like I'd have to start all over again if I moved to DW. Also, all of my fics are posted on LJ, and I dislike the idea of having multiple archives. I also don't have a paid account on LJ (yet; I keep wanting to get one so I can edit comments and make polls, and then another cock-up like this happens), so as a customer I have less to lose.

That said, if there were a concentrated move of Spuffy fandom to DW, I would probably move, too, b/c I value you guys more than I value consistency of fandom's home.

I'm not really sure I see a big move happening, though. You mention SS moving, but in my unprofessional opinion, I don't think this round was as big a success as previous rounds have been. I think participation was down, and I'm even more confident that commenting was down. I feel like the fag_ends Mortifex prompts have inspired almost as much fic (post-wise, not by word-count, obviously) in one week as SS did in a month. Even if we got communities to move to DW, I don't think everyone would follow. I think some people would stop participating in fandom altogether.

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

I was talking more about people who have ideological problems with dw. Just not liking change I can completely understand.

I feel like I'd have to start all over again if I moved to DW

This is why I'd want the vast majority of fandom to agree to move. I feel like that would cut down on that problem to a large extent.

I don't think this round was as big a success as previous rounds have been. I think participation was down, and I'm even more confident that commenting was down.

I agree, but I think a large part of that was because most everyone was still over here. If everyone moved over there, I think it would cut out a lot of that, you know?

Also, I didn't participate this time because I got sick and it cut down on my writing energy. I'm still sad, because it's the first round I missed since I started.

Even if we got communities to move to DW, I don't think everyone would follow. I think some people would stop participating in fandom altogether.

You're probably right, and that makes me sad, and I also just don't understand it. If a big group moved to tumblr or something, I would understand, since that requires you to learn how to use an entirely different kind of website. But dw is pretty much just like lj as far as the most obvious uses go, so I personally don't understand why someone would rather drop out than move over there. I just don't think it would affect anything (if everyone did it) other than the url of the website at the top of the page. But that's just me.

[next_to_normal]

But dw is pretty much just like lj as far as the most obvious uses go, so I personally don't understand why someone would rather drop out than move over there. I just don't think it would affect anything (if everyone did it) other than the url of the website at the top of the page. But that's just me.

Not just you! Me too. I am baffled sometimes at the reasons people give for not wanting to go to DW. Like, if you're lazy or don't like change just say so, don't make it out to be this huge obstacle to learn a new website. It's nearly identical to LJ (and any changes have almost universally been improvements).

[rahirah]

That said, I know some people don't like dreamwidth, and I've never got a real clear read on why that is?


1. It's not LJ. People hate change. They hate other people telling them that the thing they like may not be as good as that other thing over there even more.
2. Several of the founders were involved in the LJ Abuse team back in the day, and apparently made enemies
3. At least one of the founders is/was a BNF in some Stargate-related fandom, and BNFs always attract wank
4. At the beginning, there were a number of people who predicted that it would fail financially within a year or two, so why bother?

[slaymesoftly.livejournal.com]

There's also the history of mass panics and exoduses to other journals (Insane, Great, who-the-hell-remembers? journal) every time everybody got bent out of shape about something LJ was doing. All of those came to naught, so it was hard to take the move to DW seriously when it first started. It does seem to be a going concern at this time, but I can remember feeling annoyed when it first opened and everyone was all "I'm going to DW". Having said that, I'm there too and it was relatively painless to transfer all my LJ stuff over. And I did go ahead and make that personal account on there - although I don't update it very often.