I don't think I hate Xander as much as I hate Angel, and Xander does have some redeeming qualities (can't think of any with my hate-on at 100% at the moment, but I know he has them . . . ooh! He hates Angel too! That's a good quality!), but I've noticed when I disagree with eleusis_walks I disagree fiercely. See: blackfrancine's ATS season 4 post. But when he's on . . . he's on.