*rolls eyes*

[lirazel]

OMG Y'ALL.

Did you know that we as Spuffy/Spike fans have ~superpowers???? That we can render things meaningless for other people? Also did you know that anyone who doesn't think the earlier seasons of BtVS are "better" is automatically "lacking in perspective" about the show?

Because I wasn't aware of this, but I'm so glad that people have informed and enlightened me! I can now fix my perspective to get it in line with....

Oh. Wait. Who decides these things again? They're opinion-based? You mean that no one is actually wrong if they enjoy a different episode of a TV show than I do? Seriously?

CHAOS WILL NOW ENSUE. HOW WILL THE UNIVERSE BEAR UP UNDER SUCH ANARCHY?

*runs and hides*

Comments

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Did you know that we as Spuffy/Spike fans have ~superpowers???? That we can render things meaningless for other people?

Having been informed several years ago that Spuffies destroyed all of television (No joke. shapinglight even has an icon), I've known for a while that in certain quarters we are considered to have superpowers.

Unfortunately said superpowers never seemed to incorporate us getting anything we actually want, but our mere existence seems to be enough to be a constant agitant to some, so I suppose that's considered to super power enough. >:]

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

LOVE YOUR ICON.

Having been informed several years ago that Spuffies destroyed all of television

You don't happen to have a link, do you? I would love to read this.

So is this the "WE ARE BECOME SPUFFY, DESTROYER OF WORLDS" icon? Because that one never fails to make me laugh.

Unfortunately said superpowers never seemed to incorporate us getting anything we actually want, but our mere existence seems to be enough to be a constant agitant to some, so I suppose that's considered to super power enough. >:]

HAHAHA. I will never stop laughing at this.

[elisi]

No joke. [info]shapinglight even has an icon
This the one you're thinking of? frimfram made it back when that kerfuffle happened. *is proud Spuffy shipper*

My Icon is directed at the rude idiots not you!

[pfeifferpack.livejournal.com]

I think in many cases those who hold to the "first three seasons are all that really matter" are of the same mindset as those 40 year olds fondly looking back to their high school "glory years". I have learned to avoid most sites that are not clearly Spike or Spuffy friendly (at least). I get tired of the depth of the nastiness I find otherwise.

Kathleen
Superpowered! YAY I am now a Joss variety representative of girl power!!! What are my powers cause I wish to do violence?

[treadingthedark.livejournal.com]

Funny. I just got done leaving an irritated post there which was much milder than what I was really feeling. I'm actually pretty pissed off. In an American way of course. Too early in the morning for English pissed.

But I digress. It really gets old being the butt monkey of fandom. We totally got shat on with Season 8, are so unimportant and minor that the powers that write shitty comics felt perfectly fine with the shitting, but yet somehow we have the power to subvert a favorite episodes list.
FUCK YOU STUPID OTHER FANS!
Ah. I feel better now. Thanks for letting me vent, feel free to delete this if you don't want the drama!

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

LOVE. IT.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I do as I posted about it in my LJ at the time, but I'd have to go searching back to 2005 or something to find it. I hate to admit that I don't even remember what it was about, just that some critic (and by that I mean some crazed internet fan) was blaming totally unrelated storylines on some totally unrelated show to being all about Spuffy and Spuffy fans and that Spuffies broke television, damn it! We ruined it for everyone! Hee!)

Superpowers indeed.

(And if everything after Season 3 is dreck... why are OMWF, Hush, Restless, and The Gift always listed as a sampling or BtVS's greatest high points?)

I figured!

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

YES. I also think it's like deird1's Vegemite Effect: they're so used to it being one way that when things don't turn out the way they expect, they reject the idea that things might be different but still good. And I understand that--I fall into the same patterns of thinking sometimes. But it's so prevalent in Whedon fandom, and it drives me CRAZY.

I have zero problem with people liking the earlier seasons better, even though I don't. My problem is when people speak definitively about how the earlier seasons are better and everyone knows it and anyone who disagrees is WRONG WRONG WRONG and just blinded by the site of Rapist Spike's Abs of Hotness.

I think your powers are mostly just ruining BtVS for the "real" fans who watch the show in the "right" way. But maybe we could invest in some rocket launchers?

[elisi]

Out ship BROKE TV FOREVER. *nods*

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Wait. What's your name over there? I never knew you were there!

I'm pretty pissed off, too, but last time I got snarky, I got chastised for it, despite the fact that the other person was being way more patronizing than I was. Whatever.

YES to your analysis of fandom politics.

No, no, feel free to vent. This is a vent-safe space!

[ruuger]

OMG I just realised why I like not only seasons 5-7 of Buffy, but the last two seasons of The X-Files and season 5 of Babylon 5, and prefer the post!Clooney years on ER! It's because of spuffy! And here I've always thought that I prefer later seasons because the cast is more comfortable and the characters have more history...

(when I saw your post I first thought that someone had finally posted a link to this at Whedonesque causing the Joss-can-do-no-bad brigade to crawl out of their lairs again)

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

You know, I think I may actually have read it one time? But it was a long time ago, so it's fuzzy. Still lolarious, though.

(EXACTLY.)

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

CLEARLY WE ARE MIGHTY.

[elisi]

Except when it comes to spelling...

(Speaking only for myself here.)

Re: I figured!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

It's very simple. They're right. We're wrong. And we're wrong to not acknowledge their rightness. See? Simple.

And I admit, I didn't even click on the link. Is it about some episode poll?

Back when FX did Thanksgiving Day Marathons and had fans vote on favorite episodes, 'Fool For Love,' 'The Gift' and 'Intervention' always used to come out near the very top.

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

SPUFFY DESTROYS EVERYTHING.

I loved your post over there, btw. Even if Simon swooped in to shut things down.

I do adore comfortable casts and characters having history....Hmmm...

(OMG. I wish someone would! And yet I don't, because it would turn ugly very quickly and everyone would FREAK THE HELL OUT and you and I and Emmie and whoever would have to start taking blood pressure medication. Otoh, there was some great discussion of that post over on ontd_feminism.)

Re: I figured!

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Of course! Why didn't I see it before!

People got to vote for the episodes that they wanted to watch in some marathon on some random channel I don't think many people get. And later seasons and Spike-centric episodes seem to have dominated it and PEOPLE ARE FREAKING OUT.

Because clearly the only reason you could like "Something Blue" is because you're a Spuffy. CLEARLY.

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

I suck at spelling! And typos!

[flake-sake.livejournal.com]

Return of the douchebags!

Looks like the grapes are tasting sour...

Wow, how horrible that a lot of people still like Spike. Let's declare them all pseudofans!

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Not only are we WRONG WRONG WRONG, we also "hijaked" the poll! HEAVEN FORBID!

[treadingthedark.livejournal.com]

Xane

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

Are you really? I've liked you forever over there and never realized it was you! Craziness!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Although I have to admit that it's easier for me to watch the early seasons as opposed to the later ones. The later ones still touch a lot of somewhat raw nerves where watching the the early seasons is far more LOL!

That said, I think the earlier seasons are coming off a bit more dated. The latter seasons being a bit more epic-urban-fantasy-ish/internal angst oriented makes them seem a bit more tireless. The earlier seasons look very "high school in the 90s" now. Which, while not bad (especially if one was in high school in the 90s and thus it brings back war,m squishy memories) makes it seem very time specific.

[penny-lane-42.livejournal.com]

I watch a ton of S7 scenes over and over again despite thinking the season is weak in a lot of ways. Favorite/most watched episodes =/= best, you know?

And I totally agree. I went to high school in the early 00s and I have no particular affection or nostalgia for that period. I also can't relate to Buffy personally nearly as much during that time as I can during the later seasons.

Re: I figured!

[shipperx.livejournal.com]

Ah. Logo?

Why are they surprised? Someone should remind them that this was always but always the case with the FX polls for Thanksgiving marathons back in the day

Some (oh...like Dark Horse for example) never like to acknowledge that Spuffies are "really" part of the fandom, much less a significant-sized chunk of it.