I am Lirazel, and I'm a big fan of most of those people whose journals you've been lurking in (Gabs especially is so great at creating community for us BtVS fans), so I hope you enjoy yourself, especially if you do eventually decide to do the lj thing (I personally love it, but I know it can be difficult to navigate and not everyone has the interest).
Anyway, no, not creepy at all, and I'm glad you popped in.
The latter frustrates me more, because season six is my personal emotional touchstone—I have some objections to the handling of almost every character’s arc, but at the same time I feel more for almost every character that year than in most of the series, which I quite like. Okay, I so, so know exactly what you mean. I feel the same way. Buffy is my favorite character (as you might be able to tell if you've looked around my journal), but I didn't really, really start to "get" her until S6. I feel like S6 gave me Buffy, in a way. That sounds strange, I know, but it's true. And with how deeply I feel for Spike and Dawn and Anya and others in that season...it's my favorite, problematic though it might be.
And so it’s hard to navigate between, “Yes, you’re right, X sucks” and “But X doesn’t ruin the season!” I think I kept my cool but wasn't particularly convincing, but that's okay. Again, I know exactly what you mean. This is true of both S6 (my fav) and S7 (the one that gives me want I want for my two favorite characters). They're both problematic in a lot of ways--S7 especially so--but there are things that I just connect to in ways I can't any of the earlier seasons.
The main anti-Spike commenter strikes me as smart and has justification for his views, but I disagree with him so often, and what he says usually gets my blood boiling so much, that I've taken to mostly skipping his comments for my own sanity. He's usually a mixture of, I think, reasonable criticism with (to me) completely unfounded ones, with everything in between.
Oh, yes. He's lucky he caught me on a good day, honestly. I was feeling generous and patient that day. Usually his comments just make me stabby (although there are a few about Dollhouse that I quite agree with). I was actually really impressed with myself for not going off on him.
And again: I totally agree about Faith. It seems to me that this is an inversion of a tendency I see in fandom in general: usually, fans are much more forgiving of a guy who's a jerk than of a woman who's a jerk and will find all kinds of excuses to let the guy off the hook while totally skewering the woman. Here, though, it seems like these people find similar behaviors acceptable in a hot woman that they wouldn't in a man. It makes me wonder.
Perhaps for other people (not Hellmouthguy, clearly) it has something to do with the fact that Faith actually is kill--and radiates coolness, even though she has a rough background--whereas Spike's coolness is 90% of the time a facade? I don't know.
Yeah, the OMWF argument is not one I can understand at all.
There are certain ideas that I see over and over again on whedonesque that drive me crazy: that the later seasons suck, that Spike was cooler when he was bad and then got ruined, that Buffy ends up being a bitch (well, she can be, but in the best way), that anyone who ships Spike/Buffy is a rape apologist (which I find kind of hilariously sad since it's my S/B shipper friends who fight against Rape Culture in any way they can and write great feminist critiques of the show, but whatever), that Dawn is OMG THE MOST ANNOYING PERSON EVER (I'm fond of Dawn), that people who like Spike just think JM is hot, etc. It often feels like I'm banging my head against a brick wall over there.
Sometimes I don't know why I stick around. But there are people I agree with--like you!--and sometimes I actually do get to engage in civil conversation (like that one), so maybe it's worth it in the end?
Anyways, welcome to my journal. Feel free to pop in any time, though I can't guarantee you'll find everything here of interest. I hope to see you making awesome comments on whedonesque more in the future. :)
Oh, and now I'm poking around your blog. Just fyi.
Re: Hi! (delurking various places)
I am Lirazel, and I'm a big fan of most of those people whose journals you've been lurking in (Gabs especially is so great at creating community for us BtVS fans), so I hope you enjoy yourself, especially if you do eventually decide to do the lj thing (I personally love it, but I know it can be difficult to navigate and not everyone has the interest).
Anyway, no, not creepy at all, and I'm glad you popped in.
The latter frustrates me more, because season six is my personal emotional touchstone—I have some objections to the handling of almost every character’s arc, but at the same time I feel more for almost every character that year than in most of the series, which I quite like. Okay, I so, so know exactly what you mean. I feel the same way. Buffy is my favorite character (as you might be able to tell if you've looked around my journal), but I didn't really, really start to "get" her until S6. I feel like S6 gave me Buffy, in a way. That sounds strange, I know, but it's true. And with how deeply I feel for Spike and Dawn and Anya and others in that season...it's my favorite, problematic though it might be.
And so it’s hard to navigate between, “Yes, you’re right, X sucks” and “But X doesn’t ruin the season!” I think I kept my cool but wasn't particularly convincing, but that's okay. Again, I know exactly what you mean. This is true of both S6 (my fav) and S7 (the one that gives me want I want for my two favorite characters). They're both problematic in a lot of ways--S7 especially so--but there are things that I just connect to in ways I can't any of the earlier seasons.
The main anti-Spike commenter strikes me as smart and has justification for his views, but I disagree with him so often, and what he says usually gets my blood boiling so much, that I've taken to mostly skipping his comments for my own sanity. He's usually a mixture of, I think, reasonable criticism with (to me) completely unfounded ones, with everything in between.
Oh, yes. He's lucky he caught me on a good day, honestly. I was feeling generous and patient that day. Usually his comments just make me stabby (although there are a few about Dollhouse that I quite agree with). I was actually really impressed with myself for not going off on him.
And again: I totally agree about Faith. It seems to me that this is an inversion of a tendency I see in fandom in general: usually, fans are much more forgiving of a guy who's a jerk than of a woman who's a jerk and will find all kinds of excuses to let the guy off the hook while totally skewering the woman. Here, though, it seems like these people find similar behaviors acceptable in a hot woman that they wouldn't in a man. It makes me wonder.
Perhaps for other people (not Hellmouthguy, clearly) it has something to do with the fact that Faith actually is kill--and radiates coolness, even though she has a rough background--whereas Spike's coolness is 90% of the time a facade? I don't know.
Yeah, the OMWF argument is not one I can understand at all.
There are certain ideas that I see over and over again on whedonesque that drive me crazy: that the later seasons suck, that Spike was cooler when he was bad and then got ruined, that Buffy ends up being a bitch (well, she can be, but in the best way), that anyone who ships Spike/Buffy is a rape apologist (which I find kind of hilariously sad since it's my S/B shipper friends who fight against Rape Culture in any way they can and write great feminist critiques of the show, but whatever), that Dawn is OMG THE MOST ANNOYING PERSON EVER (I'm fond of Dawn), that people who like Spike just think JM is hot, etc. It often feels like I'm banging my head against a brick wall over there.
Sometimes I don't know why I stick around. But there are people I agree with--like you!--and sometimes I actually do get to engage in civil conversation (like that one), so maybe it's worth it in the end?
Anyways, welcome to my journal. Feel free to pop in any time, though I can't guarantee you'll find everything here of interest. I hope to see you making awesome comments on whedonesque more in the future. :)
Oh, and now I'm poking around your blog. Just fyi.