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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-01-30 05:24 pm

Still so many questions!

So I did my freaking out about last night's finale of Dollhouse. Now's the time to be more practical.

Oh, yeah. There's spoilers.


1. I have decided that this is my ultimate fanwank: the vaccine to keep from being doll-ified also stops you from aging. What do we think?

2. How long had Harding and Co. had Topher? Was this a recent thing, him getting nabbed? Or had they had him a while? Are we talking years or what?

3. How did Tony and Priya end up back in the dollhouse post-The Hollow Men and pre-Epitaph One? I can see Adelle and Topher being there and Echo and Ballard, too. But wouldn't Tony and Priya have taken off?

4. An extension of that: how soon after the end of The Hollow Men did the big wipe take place? I know the flashforward at the end said, what, a year later?

5. My fanwank about Whiskey/Claire: they get Whiskey's body out, then try to put Claire back in. But not only is she deeply conflicted about who she really is, but she's also feeling betrayed by Boyd, so she asks to be taken out again so that she can be the messenger when everybody else leaves. Whiskey re-enters doll-state, and stays behind as the messenger, just as Claire asks.

6. I totally shipped Zone/Mag (I really like Zone, and Felicia's awesome as always)! And then Mag has a crush on Maurissa's character whose name I didn't catch! I'm gonna go with her being bi, as she never defines herself otherwise, so maybe one day she and Zone can have a thing.

7. Dominic is not dead. Which means he's been out there kicking ass and taking names, y/y? And sometimes dropping in at Safe Haven and having intense moments with Adelle?

8. I demand that somebody write a long, character-intensive fic exploring Alpha's journey to becoming as awesomely good as he was awesomely evil (OMG HIS AWESOMENESS DID NOT DIMINISH AT ALL). So...get on that.

9. Did it ever say how old T is? I know that Priya mentioned something about the last time Tony'd seen Safe Haven was three years before. But his gang could easily have stopped in seeking shelter or swinging in to protect the camp or something. We know that T doesn't know that Tony's his father, and it doesn't seem like Tony had been around him pretty much at all, so I'm guessing he took off shortly after T was born. Thoughts?

10. The whole scene in Epitaph One with Harding in Victor's body. When the hell was that supposed to take place? I have no idea.

I'm sure I have loads more questions, but I think this is a good place to start. Help me out, people!

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-01-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Your questions hurt my brain. It's much easier answering the questions that help me figure out who my Vampire Soulmate is. :D

[identity profile] anythingbutgrey.livejournal.com 2010-01-30 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
i love this post. i can't even wrap my brain around the finale because so much was awesome and so much was completely unexplained and against continuity, but hey, whatever, that's what happens when you spend 1.25 seasons SUCKING, joss.

[identity profile] babydolleyez.livejournal.com 2010-01-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
:daydreams about how many definite answers we would have gotten if the show had lasted longer (five years would have been a bit much....two or three full seasons maybe):

1. My fanwank is lazy makeup artists who said "oh come one, most of them would only be in their 30's".

4. I actually thought the thing said "ten years later" so the timeline is likely malleable.

9. The casting call was for a six year old (didn't say who the character was, but most people guessed because there was no other reason to ask specifically for a child of mixed Caucasian and Asian ancestry ) so probably between five and seven.

10. My guess? Plot point dropped due to time. Like many. Too bad, good story there.

[identity profile] dollsome.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I am pretty much right here with you on all of these -- I like the Claire interpretation in particular. But, of course, my heart truly belongs to #7. (Predictable, me?)

[identity profile] bobthemole.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
1. I'm more excited that the vaccine gave Echo shampoo-commercial hair in spite of the hiding and smuggling and urban warfare she put it through. Rossum Corp: a subsidiary of Proctor and Gamble.

6. Maurissa played Kilo who, as Topher said, weighs one kilo!

[identity profile] ohwaluvusbab.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
6. I sensed the vibe also *nod*

7. YOU KNOW IT. I ship it, yes I do.



[identity profile] moonlightrick.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
2. How long had Harding and Co. had Topher? Was this a recent thing, him getting nabbed? Or had they had him a while? Are we talking years or what?

I'm guessing, just because Caroline and Paul had a pretty simple plan to get him back, that Harding hadn't had Topher for years. Plus, Topher was crazy before, too, so the crazy-making would have taken more effect more quickly--but definitely long enough for him to get far less lucid, and to start working on a vaccine. At least a month, maybe a little longer?

3. How did Tony and Priya end up back in the dollhouse post-The Hollow Men and pre-Epitaph One? I can see Adelle and Topher being there and Echo and Ballard, too. But wouldn't Tony and Priya have taken off?

Well...they went back, though. So I think they made their choice to fight the fight (and Sierra was never going to leave Echo behind). Even if they didn't go straight back to the Dollhouse, though, it sounded (to someone who didn't pore over Epitaph One or discuss it much) as if the Dollhouse became an irony-is-wacky kind of safe haven from everything going on above ground.

7. Dominic is not dead. Which means he's been out there kicking ass and taking names, y/y? And sometimes dropping in at Safe Haven and having intense moments with Adelle?

There is no other possible explanation. Dominic is out there being a bitter resistance fighter who kills carrots and strawberries anyway, but Adelle's laid down the law about when he checks back in.

8. I demand that somebody write a long, character-intensive fic exploring Alpha's journey to becoming as awesomely good as he was awesomely evil (OMG HIS AWESOMENESS DID NOT DIMINISH AT ALL). So...get on that.

Lol, I read this and wandered off for a bit, and somehow Alpha => Adelle, so if I end up writing Adelle's pre-Dollhouse life/post-apocalypse transformation, I blame you. But thankfully, I can't write Alpha's kind of crazy/awesome, so I just have to sit back and appreciate it. (Also, as a side note, this fandom needs to get started on the Epic Fanfic thing now.)

9. Did it ever say how old T is? I know that Priya mentioned something about the last time Tony'd seen Safe Haven was three years before. But his gang could easily have stopped in seeking shelter or swinging in to protect the camp or something. We know that T doesn't know that Tony's his father, and it doesn't seem like Tony had been around him pretty much at all, so I'm guessing he took off shortly after T was born. Thoughts?

T looked about seven or so to me. Tony's probably been around a little--Priya was too hurt for the scabs not to have been picked over a couple of times over the years, and for her to keep seeing "proof" that Tony was pulled in by the tech. But, yeah, he must have officially left while T was still very young.

10. The whole scene in Epitaph One with Harding in Victor's body. When the hell was that supposed to take place? I have no idea.

A lot of Epitaph One seems retconned now, or at least in serious need of some PR fasttalk :P

[identity profile] aisalynn.livejournal.com 2010-02-01 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)

6. I totally shipped Zone/Mag (I really like Zone, and Felicia's awesome as always)! And then Mag has a crush on Maurissa's character whose name I didn't catch! I'm gonna go with her being bi, as she never defines herself otherwise, so maybe one day she and Zone can have a thing.


Yessssss... This is what I choose to believe.

[identity profile] author-by-night.livejournal.com 2010-02-02 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
I totally shipped Zone/Mag (I really like Zone, and Felicia's awesome as always)!

I had this really sad pet theory that before the world spun out of control, they were actually on the brink of having something. It actually threw me when Zone asked who Mag was - it hadn't occurred to me that they hadn't met before.