lirazel: An outdoor scene from the film Picnic at Hanging Rock ([btvs] bored now)
lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2010-01-27 11:51 am

I am bored at work.

And also, I am writing dark future-fic Spuffy! Heh. We'll see if anything comes of it.

For now, distract me:

Gakked from [livejournal.com profile] redsilverchains:

Give me a character from any fandom I know at least fairly well, and I will tell you:

A) My OTP
B) The runner up
C) The anti-ship
D) My unpopular fannish opinion on said character
E) One person he/she never fell in love with, and why


I feel like I've done this before long ago, but who cares? I have loads more fandoms now. Go wild!
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[personal profile] snickfic 2010-01-27 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read both Giles/Buffy and Giles/Willow stories that worked for me, but I can see how they might not work for everyone.

OTOH, I just about can't ship Xander. If it's not Cordy it can be Anya, but if it's not Anya then... I really don't care. Actually, I find that I just really don't care about Xander much, period.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-27 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just profoundly uncomfortable with the idea of an authority figure--basically any figure that could be viewed as a parental one--with one of their charges...squicky. There are a few exceptions, but it's a general rule. On the other hand, I can support your Faith/Giles ship because while there's an age difference, he was never in her life the way he was with any of the Scoobies. It's not the same thing.

Exactly. I like Cordy/Xander, I like Anya and they have a few cute moments. But I don't find him interesting at all, and I don't care about his sexual/romantic life. I like him when he's being BFFs with Willow or Buffy (after he gets over the crushes), but other than that...Meh.

Oh, also, I don't hate the idea of Xander/Dawn, but I really think she deserves better. Which I realize is also not a popular opinion, but still.

I would be really interested in hearing sometime what kind of guy you think would be good for Dawn. I don't think we've ever talked about that. Not that she needs someone or anything, but just as a hypothetical sort of way.
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[personal profile] snickfic 2010-01-29 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Which I realize is also not a popular opinion, but still.

But a good one, with which I'm willing to agree. (I'm actually open to Xander growing up and maturing in fic and then getting paired with various BtVS ladies. It's purely canon!Xander that I have trouble shipping.)

Dawn. Okay. You know what, I'm just gonna quote my Yuletide recipient on this, because in the midst of a discussion on Matilda she had this to say:

I know for me and many viewers/fans, Dawn as younger-sister is really hard to shake, even though she's almost an adult by series end and can be aged up regardless, she feels like a younger-sister to me. Likewise Joyce-as-mother. We-as-viewers take the viewpoint character (Buffy)'s age to be the norm and point-of-identity... it's illogical but it's how I react to text.

Which nicely sums up my feelings about Dawn. Because she's "younger sister," I have trouble shipping her with any of the regular cast. Even though in ten years the age difference will be almost irrelevent and even though she seems to me to be nearer maturity than Xander, I still couldn't ever ship them. Even more so for Spike/Dawn, since I see them as having a much closer sibling relationship than Dawn has with Xander.

The one exception might possibly be, would you believe, Dawn/Andrew. I think [livejournal.com profile] deird1's just about convinced me. (And now she's writing fic about them, too!) Her basic premise is: that they're both geeky with the potential to be good friends; that, once he falls for her, Andrew will appreciate her without letting her angst about her keyness too much (because, as Deird says, "It’s pretty hard to get all caught up in your own dramatically heart-breaking angst when the person you’re talking to will probably respond with 'Wow! Cool story. I wonder if it would work as a comic book series… And hey – can you glow?'")

But you didn't ask who I shipped her with, you asked what kind of guy I thought she needed. And... I don't really have an answer for that. I'm actually terrifically bad at coming up with the 'sort' of person a person ought to be with, especially when I don't have any previous evidence of that person in relationships to work from. Like, I can opine that Cordy's better for Xander than Anya is, but that's just a comparison between two options. I can't construct the perfect person for Xander. Or Dawn. Or myself, for that matter. It's... too abstract for me, or something.

So that was all really wordy and didn't really answer the question. Oh, well.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2010-01-27 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I profoundly don't care about Xander either. Meh. I don't know why, I just don't.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-01-28 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not understand why some people love him so much. There doesn't seem to be anything going on below the surface to me--he's not interesting enough for me to love him or hate him. Plus, whenever they play up his "normal guy" stuff in a sexual way--porn or "thinking about two women doing a spell" or whatever--it pisses me off, so I don't care about shipping him. Meh.