lirazel: Spock, Bones, and Kirk from TOS ([tv] boldly go)
lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2023-08-04 08:39 am

Fannish Friday: we were so close! (feat. ironic icon use)

I was thinking earlier this week about Bones from ST: TOS and how close he comes to being a favorite character of mine. I think DeForest Kelley is great in the role, and I like a curmudgeon!

But omg, I hate how he's constantly space!racist to Spock, who is, always, my number one priority! Why??? did the writers do this??? It keeps me from loving Bones completely and it also keeps me from OT3-ing him with Spock and Kirk. I can imagine a world in which Bones is still gruff and grumpy and skeptical but not a bigot against Vulcans, and in that world, I would adore him! In that world, that OT3 would be one of my all-time ships! But we, alas, do not live in that world!

I'm also thinking of Becky Chambers, whose worldbuilding I find so very, very fun and who is a very good writer who actually writes alien main character! I feel like, on paper, she is a writer who I should absolutely adore, and yet her books are lacking something to make me love her. I told Jessica it was because they're lacking the messiness of real life, and I do think that's part of it, though there's something else I can't quite put my finger on.

So tell me about your near-misses. Is there something out there--a character, a show, a book, a ship, whatever--that you could have loved wholeheartedly if just one small thing had been done differently?
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[personal profile] sawthefaeriequeen 2023-08-08 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
especially since this was back in 2015 before twitter became what it is now
That’s a good point. The other death, I find more suspicious though. It didn’t need to be that brutal.

and then doesn't get dealt with at all because there's thirty pages left in the book and there's other plots to be wrapped up
This! This drove me crazy. And then you have ‘no mourners’ as a convenient excuse to just not deal with the emotional fallout.

Well, because the Grisha are a persecuted minority . . . who are also an elite unit in the Ravkan army.
Yeah… I wonder if it’s because she viewed each series as different entities in her mind. Like, in THIS one they’re elites, but in THIS one they’re persecuted…the result is something like a cat chasing its own tail. I don’t remember, is the Grisha committing war crimes ever addressed other than “wars happen”?

But Bardugo needed her there in order to support future book plots and so that she could avoid complicating the fantasy of Ravkan glory
Yeah, true. This reminds me of that thing Disney does where a character’s themes and arc and wholeass trilogy can get snapped away any second so they can serve the overarching Avengers/MCU plot.
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[personal profile] evewithanapple 2023-08-11 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t remember, is the Grisha committing war crimes ever addressed other than “wars happen”?

None that I can recall, but there's a throwaway line where Inej thinks about how badly Ravka treats the Suli, but she won't bring it up to Nina because she gets defensive.