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lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote2022-09-28 10:14 am
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dating historical photographs

+ Women: easy. You almost always know exactly what decade they're in by the silhouette of their clothes. If you're still somehow unsure, hairstyles usually help you pin it down. Figuring out the decade is fun, actually.

[Caveat: the richer the woman, the easier it is to tell her decade. Really poor women are harder to date, though still easier than men.]

+ Men: middling. The hair/facial hair helps more than the clothes sometimes, as does any props (canes, hats, etc.) they might be holding. Also men's styles are in general much more boring, so it's not nearly as fun.

+ Children: difficult. If the clothes are closely modeled on adult fashion, dating girls is relatively easy. If they're wearing a basic white dress with a sash, it's a lot harder. Boys are always harder to date, especially if they're wearing a little suit. Aggravating.

+ Babies: IMPOSSIBLE. All babies between the invention of photography and the 1920s wore frilly little white nightgowns literally how am I supposed to even guess what decade this photograph was taken????? *headdesk headdesk headdesk*
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[personal profile] elperian 2022-09-28 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Figuring out the decade is fun, actually.

This tracks so much with like, real life :P

Also men's styles are in general much more boring, so it's not nearly as fun.

Their fashion used to have so much panache! Like, pre-19th century. Oh well.
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2022-09-28 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Babies: IMPOSSIBLE. All babies between the invention of photography and the 1920s wore frilly little white nightgowns

XD I think the weirdest thing about old baby photos is that many feature ghost/hidden mothers, which is a bit creepy but at least they let us narrow down the date a bit!?
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[personal profile] regshoe 2022-09-28 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the weirdest thing about old baby photos is that many feature ghost/hidden mothers

...I have not heard of this before! What is it?
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2022-09-28 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a method photographers used (mostly up to the 1920s, when the process of exposure of the photographs started taking less time), to stop babies from moving when they were being photographed. Since it took longer back then, what they did was to have the mother (or sometimes another relative, or even the photographer's assistant) hold the babies, so they wouldn't be frightened, and so might sit still and avoid getting blurry photos. The person holding them was disguised by fabric, or in other ways, and then either was cropped out of the photo, or hidden by the cardboard overlay--basically, they were just used as a background for the babies. Here are some examples that describe it better than I did, and show that it is kind of creepy, right? Many of the photos have a black shape behind the baby, and it's funny and weird and unsettling at the same time!
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[personal profile] regshoe 2022-09-28 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
How fascinating! Thanks for the explanation. Yes, that is definitely both funny and slightly unsettling—I think the ones where you can just see a hand holding the baby's arm or head are funnier, and the ones with more elaborate cloth arrangements are weirder...
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2022-09-28 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I had never heard of this either, and wow! What an odd gallery of photographs.
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[personal profile] regshoe 2022-09-28 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds like a fun bit of adventure! I've picked up a little about eighteenth-century men's fashion (definitely much more interesting than nineteenth-century!) from my historical fandoms, and I really ought to learn more about it so I can identify paintings to the decade.