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some Kinnporsche thoughts
Let's make a couple of things very clear:
1. This show is a mess. Not visually--it's stunningly shot and the director and cinematographer both deserve awards. But plot-wise and priorities-wise and pacing-wise and just so many other things. A MESS. (a mess.)
2. It's that specific kind of sexist that we are all familiar with from slash fanfic where all the dudes are gay (ALL the dudes) and there are no women except for one token woman to cheer along our ship (who only shows up a handful of times) and one more who exists only to be a pawn (and only shows up in like the last thirty minutes of the whole show). I've really never seen a show so egregiously uninterested in women. It's appalling.
3. The main ship is made up of two very, very pretty himbos who are very, very cute together.
4. The secondary ship? Is top tier. WOW. Like, a little too rushed for me as an ace person, but their dynamic is amazing, their scenes are incredible, and I will read a million fics.
5. The other secondary ship is so boring I can't believe I sat through all their scenes OMG it was the worst.
6. Yes, all three ships are m/m. THERE ARE NO WOMEN.
7. The pacing is some of the worst I've ever seen. Soooo much time is spent on pointless stuff and the actually plotty or character-building stuff just doesn't get enough focus. What's there of character-building is good, actually. I like our leads! I super like our secondary ship and also the traumatized big brother! But there was so much wasted potential that could have been explored deeply.
8. This show is allegedly "about" mafia families. This show is not about mafia families. It is completely and totally uninterested in how organized crime actually works or what it involves. I'm not saying it needs to address that stuff in anything like a realistic way. Of course it doesn't. But you can embrace the pulpy stuff and not just the aesthetic! Come on! The mafia place setting is only there to make sure that one of our leads is fabulously wealthy and needs a bodyguard. That's it. I have seriously read 10k word fanfic mafia AUs that care more about organized crime.
9. My main conclusion is that this show is only worth watching (for me personally) because of Tankhun, Vegas, and VegasPete. I'm glad I watched it for them, but even though KinnPorsche are cute and funny, I wouldn't have waded through the whole show for them.
10. I recommend this show to you if any of the following are true about you:
a. You really like softcore porn between two very pretty himbos alternating with them being absolute goobers
b. You are into the kind of ship that involves lots of blood and crying and pointing guns at each otherand chains and you are willing to watch like 10 episodes before they even start interacting.
c. You like the kind of slashfic described above where women might as well not even exist.
I only check one out of three, but whatever. I really am looking forward to all the VegasPete fics.
The ending makes NO SENSE character-wise I'm so annoyed! Has Porsche ever shown the slightest inclination to be a mafia boss? NO HE HAS NOT. So why is this a happy ending for him???
It should have ended with Vegas and Kinn both killing their evil dads and then taking their boyfriends, their little brothers (minus Kim because we can all do without him), and Tankhun and running away to run a bar on a beach somewhere.
And please can we forget KimChay forever. It is completely unconvincing to me as a romantic relationship. I can believe that Kim's ego is getting stroked by this kid worshiping him, and I can even believe that he thinks Chay is cute and wants to protect him. But nothing about him having romantic feelings for Chay makes the slightest bit of sense.
Also the show did not lean into Kim being a total psychopath enough. He is only interesting when he's being a stone-cold maniac--the rest of the time he has no personality and I want him to go away.
The stuff with the mom pissed me off so much. She's a pawn, nothing more. She's kept in a literal attic. She exists for the men to have feelings about. And she conveniently has brain damage so she can still be beautiful (and apparently paint amazingly well?) but not actually have any agency or even reactions that might, you know, matter. It's honestly more gross than if she wasn't there at all. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS ENDING???
Also, Kinn's dad is clearly every bit as evil as Vegas's dad, only he's way more manipulative and emotionally self-controlled. AND HE GETS AWAY WITH IT. UGH I HATE HIM. He's not punished at all in any way! What is the point of a fantastical show like this if the bad guy doesn't even get his comeuppance????
Kinn and Porsche are pretty and cute and funny and their scenes were amusing and I like to think of these two well-dressed himbos being in love forever.
Tankhun is my hero and I would watch a spinoff about him watching kdramas poorly. I did not know it was possible to watch kdramas poorly, but it is.
This show does not deserve Vegas and all the work Bible was doing making him so compelling. Goodness gracious. Part of me wishes he'd had the catharsis of killing his dad himself, but you know what? When he dropped to his knees and after the longest silence just said, "Papa?" I lost my mind. That was so good.
I do feel like he and Pete did move too fast. Y'all know this is my complaint about 90% of ships. They had one torture scene and one sex scene together and now they love each other? But their interactions are SO GOOD I'm willing to overlook it and I am hoping I'll find at least one or two really convincing slowburn fanfics about them.
I wish we'd gotten more into Pete's motivations. Vegas is walking case of Daddy Issues, but though the one recalled memory about Pete's dad was so good, I really feel like they could have done more with him and his inferiority.
[I'm going to come back here later and put all my liveblogs in this post]
In conclusion: come at me with some VegasPete fic recs.
1. This show is a mess. Not visually--it's stunningly shot and the director and cinematographer both deserve awards. But plot-wise and priorities-wise and pacing-wise and just so many other things. A MESS. (a mess.)
2. It's that specific kind of sexist that we are all familiar with from slash fanfic where all the dudes are gay (ALL the dudes) and there are no women except for one token woman to cheer along our ship (who only shows up a handful of times) and one more who exists only to be a pawn (and only shows up in like the last thirty minutes of the whole show). I've really never seen a show so egregiously uninterested in women. It's appalling.
3. The main ship is made up of two very, very pretty himbos who are very, very cute together.
4. The secondary ship? Is top tier. WOW. Like, a little too rushed for me as an ace person, but their dynamic is amazing, their scenes are incredible, and I will read a million fics.
5. The other secondary ship is so boring I can't believe I sat through all their scenes OMG it was the worst.
6. Yes, all three ships are m/m. THERE ARE NO WOMEN.
7. The pacing is some of the worst I've ever seen. Soooo much time is spent on pointless stuff and the actually plotty or character-building stuff just doesn't get enough focus. What's there of character-building is good, actually. I like our leads! I super like our secondary ship and also the traumatized big brother! But there was so much wasted potential that could have been explored deeply.
8. This show is allegedly "about" mafia families. This show is not about mafia families. It is completely and totally uninterested in how organized crime actually works or what it involves. I'm not saying it needs to address that stuff in anything like a realistic way. Of course it doesn't. But you can embrace the pulpy stuff and not just the aesthetic! Come on! The mafia place setting is only there to make sure that one of our leads is fabulously wealthy and needs a bodyguard. That's it. I have seriously read 10k word fanfic mafia AUs that care more about organized crime.
9. My main conclusion is that this show is only worth watching (for me personally) because of Tankhun, Vegas, and VegasPete. I'm glad I watched it for them, but even though KinnPorsche are cute and funny, I wouldn't have waded through the whole show for them.
10. I recommend this show to you if any of the following are true about you:
a. You really like softcore porn between two very pretty himbos alternating with them being absolute goobers
b. You are into the kind of ship that involves lots of blood and crying and pointing guns at each other
c. You like the kind of slashfic described above where women might as well not even exist.
I only check one out of three, but whatever. I really am looking forward to all the VegasPete fics.
The ending makes NO SENSE character-wise I'm so annoyed! Has Porsche ever shown the slightest inclination to be a mafia boss? NO HE HAS NOT. So why is this a happy ending for him???
It should have ended with Vegas and Kinn both killing their evil dads and then taking their boyfriends, their little brothers (minus Kim because we can all do without him), and Tankhun and running away to run a bar on a beach somewhere.
And please can we forget KimChay forever. It is completely unconvincing to me as a romantic relationship. I can believe that Kim's ego is getting stroked by this kid worshiping him, and I can even believe that he thinks Chay is cute and wants to protect him. But nothing about him having romantic feelings for Chay makes the slightest bit of sense.
Also the show did not lean into Kim being a total psychopath enough. He is only interesting when he's being a stone-cold maniac--the rest of the time he has no personality and I want him to go away.
The stuff with the mom pissed me off so much. She's a pawn, nothing more. She's kept in a literal attic. She exists for the men to have feelings about. And she conveniently has brain damage so she can still be beautiful (and apparently paint amazingly well?) but not actually have any agency or even reactions that might, you know, matter. It's honestly more gross than if she wasn't there at all. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS ENDING???
Also, Kinn's dad is clearly every bit as evil as Vegas's dad, only he's way more manipulative and emotionally self-controlled. AND HE GETS AWAY WITH IT. UGH I HATE HIM. He's not punished at all in any way! What is the point of a fantastical show like this if the bad guy doesn't even get his comeuppance????
Kinn and Porsche are pretty and cute and funny and their scenes were amusing and I like to think of these two well-dressed himbos being in love forever.
Tankhun is my hero and I would watch a spinoff about him watching kdramas poorly. I did not know it was possible to watch kdramas poorly, but it is.
This show does not deserve Vegas and all the work Bible was doing making him so compelling. Goodness gracious. Part of me wishes he'd had the catharsis of killing his dad himself, but you know what? When he dropped to his knees and after the longest silence just said, "Papa?" I lost my mind. That was so good.
I do feel like he and Pete did move too fast. Y'all know this is my complaint about 90% of ships. They had one torture scene and one sex scene together and now they love each other? But their interactions are SO GOOD I'm willing to overlook it and I am hoping I'll find at least one or two really convincing slowburn fanfics about them.
I wish we'd gotten more into Pete's motivations. Vegas is walking case of Daddy Issues, but though the one recalled memory about Pete's dad was so good, I really feel like they could have done more with him and his inferiority.
[I'm going to come back here later and put all my liveblogs in this post]
In conclusion: come at me with some VegasPete fic recs.