See petzipellepingo's thoughts downthread! We have some answers about the breadcrumbs thing!
And yet, Ballard/Echo (and Claire/Boyd for that matter too) pings for me more on the creep meter. I have the feeling it has something to do with the fact that while one of them was about a male falling for an empowered female, the other was... not.
Agreed. Buffy had no trouble laying the smackdown on him and letting him know exactly what she thought of him. The power imbalance swung the opposite way, which makes it vastly less creepy.
That said, I can appreciate that Echo and Paul did forge an honest connection in the period they were all banded together and fighting for their lives. I can buy that. What I can't buy is "A Love Supreme" when supposedly they had already forged that connection BUT WE NEVER SAW IT. *is still annoyed*
Still. S/B pwns you all. /crazy shipper WORD.
Dawn would probably be the only one who would have the slightest idea of her loss. Agreed. Dawn is literally the only one close enough to both of them to even be able to glimpse it.
I agree with you on the privacy thing...and I don't. I love that their relationship was so private and personal. I love that other than a few tossed-off lines, Spike in AtS S5 doesn't speak about his relationship with Buffy at all. You would think he'd talk it up to make Angel mad, but he doesn't. Because it's deep and personal and not for others' eyes. It was theirs, so completely and totally that makes me want to cry.
Which is, in essence, why I LOVE IT TO PIECES, and why it rips my cold dead heart in two, because I just have this certainty that Buffy's not ever going to find that again, you know? YESYESYES. And YAY for VMars quotes! They are also welcome here! Especially that one, which is very appropriate!
However. I do think that since Buffy thinks he's totally dead, I would have liked to have even one person see what he meant to her. I don't need her to tell everyone or anything like that, but since she believes that relationship to be behind her now, I think it would be a hug step for her to admit to just one person how much Spike meant to her. Maybe not Giles or someone, but maybe Faith, who never really knew or judged him. Or Dawn.
I like it when you get rambly! I always appreciate our discussions--you bring a lot to my flist.
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And yet, Ballard/Echo (and Claire/Boyd for that matter too) pings for me more on the creep meter. I have the feeling it has something to do with the fact that while one of them was about a male falling for an empowered female, the other was... not.
Agreed. Buffy had no trouble laying the smackdown on him and letting him know exactly what she thought of him. The power imbalance swung the opposite way, which makes it vastly less creepy.
That said, I can appreciate that Echo and Paul did forge an honest connection in the period they were all banded together and fighting for their lives. I can buy that. What I can't buy is "A Love Supreme" when supposedly they had already forged that connection BUT WE NEVER SAW IT. *is still annoyed*
Still. S/B pwns you all. /crazy shipper WORD.
Dawn would probably be the only one who would have the slightest idea of her loss. Agreed. Dawn is literally the only one close enough to both of them to even be able to glimpse it.
I agree with you on the privacy thing...and I don't. I love that their relationship was so private and personal. I love that other than a few tossed-off lines, Spike in AtS S5 doesn't speak about his relationship with Buffy at all. You would think he'd talk it up to make Angel mad, but he doesn't. Because it's deep and personal and not for others' eyes. It was theirs, so completely and totally that makes me want to cry.
Which is, in essence, why I LOVE IT TO PIECES, and why it rips my cold dead heart in two, because I just have this certainty that Buffy's not ever going to find that again, you know? YESYESYES. And YAY for VMars quotes! They are also welcome here! Especially that one, which is very appropriate!
However. I do think that since Buffy thinks he's totally dead, I would have liked to have even one person see what he meant to her. I don't need her to tell everyone or anything like that, but since she believes that relationship to be behind her now, I think it would be a hug step for her to admit to just one person how much Spike meant to her. Maybe not Giles or someone, but maybe Faith, who never really knew or judged him. Or Dawn.
I like it when you get rambly! I always appreciate our discussions--you bring a lot to my flist.