lirazel: ([bh] scandalized)lirazel ([personal profile] lirazel) wrote,
@ 2011-01-21 12:20 pm UTC
Current mood: angry
Entry tags:'tis a rant, alright may i surrender to the allure of, being human, community, lauren fails at lj, lauren gets her bitch on, pimpity pimp, rec, sometimes i make things
1. Most important: I got hopelessly, hopelessly behind on my flist over the past week or two. As such, I’m certain I missed some things I didn’t want to miss. I’m going to try to wade through this weekend, but if you posted something (or saw that someone else posted something) that you know I’d want to see and I didn’t comment on it? Could you please give me a link? I’d love you forever! Not that I already don’t, because I do. But I’d love you forever longer.

2. Probably RPF will be popping up in my journal at some point. I know this makes several of you DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY and several more of you completely squicked. BUT I CANNOT RESIST THE AWESOMENESS THAT IS ANDREW/JESSE/EMMA/CAREY, OKAY? So that will probably happen. Fair warning.

3. I read a delightful little fic earlier that I think probably quite a lot of you missed. If you like Gilmore Girls, and you like Rory/Jess (and who doesn’t?), you should read Alice, about the next Gilmore girl. Awesome characterization and fun prose. I enjoyed it immensely.

4. The brilliantly wonderful in every conceivable way [livejournal.com profile] laeria wrote me ELEVEN AND RIVER BABYSIT LITTLE PONDS FIC. OH YES. THAT HAPPENED. I am so obsessed with the idea of little Ponds, y’all don’t even know. If I had my dream!season of Doctor Who, it would involve skipping forward in time about ten years and Amy and Rory AND THEIR CHILDREN running around in the Tardis with the Doctor and River and generally being so awesome I can’t even think about it.

5. BEING HUMAN. IN A MATTER OF DAYS. I MIGHT DIE OF EXCITEMENT. ANNIE ANNIE ANNIE AND GEORGE AND MITCHELL AND NINA. OMG SHOW! If you’re not watching that show, you really, really should be. I can’t think of a single reason not to. Except lack of access, I suppose. But other than that—no excuses.

6. I am having the world’s hardest time casting the James Garner character in my Great Escape gender swap. I’ve figured out everybody else! Why is he so difficult? Any suggestions? HARD.

7. I want to rant about something, and it involves spoilers for last night’s Community, so the rest of this is going So let’s talk about how much I hate meta-ness. No, not the brilliant essays y’all write about whatever show or whatever we’re currently obsessed with. I will always love that. Never stop writing it.

No, I’m talking about meta within the show. When the show makes references to fandom’s reaction to the show, for example, or something the characters couldn’t know but we do. It’s related to dramatic irony, but I love dramatic irony, so we won’t go there. What I hate, though, is this winky stuff taking over the show. For a couple of one-off jokes, it can be fabulous. Like, last night when THEO HUXTABLE was on the show and wearing a fabulous sweater and Jeff said, “Nice sweater,” and Theo said, “My dad gave it to me.” And we’re supposed to know that THAT WAS THEO HUXTABLE and this was a reference to Bill Cosby and The Cosby Show. That was brilliant and hilarious. Also like—“Dawn’s in trouble. Must be Tuesday.” These things are winks at the audience and are lovely forever if said with a light touch. I also like it in songs. Country music is especially good at this, writing songs that are actually about country songs. Like “You Never Even Called Me by My Name” has this entire verse that was written to include every country cliché you can think of—jail and mama and trains and dogs and pickup trucks—and it never fails to make me laugh. Or Brad Paisley writing “Ticks” which is clearly making fun of this random new rash of trashy country songs—the line “But I’ve got way more class than that, babe, that ain’t what I want” is possibly the most fabulous meta thing I’ve ever heard because he’s so aware of how not classy the song is, and I kind of love it.

But writers can take it too far. It seems to me like a new trend. I quit watching Supernautral when Jo and Ellen died, but right before that they introduced this whole ridiculously meta plotline where there were Dean and Sam fangirls and fanfiction and conventions and yeah, it was kind of funny that they were poking fun at their viewers. But the world of fandom had intruded into the story and it was both unprofessional and also distracting. DO NOT WANT.

And then there was last night’s Community. Which had some beyond awesome moments (as usual, many of them involved Troy, who is my favorite always, can I marry Donald Glover now?), but I felt cheated by the end. What happened was Jeff and Annie were doing their back-and-forth we’re-flirting-and-jealous-but-not thing. Whatever. They’ve got chemistry so I go with it. Annie basically sang “Rest in Peace” to Jeff and stormed out. And then Theo and Abed gave Jeff an ~epiphany~ and he runs off into the rain, shows up at a door, and gives a speech about how the person on the other side is the most wonderful person in the world and makes him want to be better, etc.

And I knew it wasn’t Annie or Britta. Of course it wasn’t—the show doesn’t do that and also he ran in the rain. The show definitely doesn’t do that in earnestness. And THEY DIDN’T SHOW WHO HE WAS TALKING TO. But it pulled back and it was Rich and Jeff just really wants him to teach him to be perfect or something? And it didn’t make sense. And I was pissed.

Not because of shippiness in any way. I really don’t want the shippiness on the show except for how they did it in the first season where they flirt with the idea of everybody. That’s awesome. And while I do ship Jeff and Annie when they’re in scenes together because, as I say, they’ve got the chemistry, I wasn’t at all disappointed that it wasn’t her on the other side of the door. What I HATED—really, really hated—was that the entire plot of the episode was all building up to that moment and it turned out to be a joke at the expense of shippers. And that sucks. Seriously, the entire episode was just to make that joke of “OH YOU THINK IT’S ANNIE HE’S TALKING TO BUT IT’S REALLY THE WRITERS TAKING THE PISS.”

No, Dan Harmon. Do not want. Stick to the “Modern Warfare” kind of meta, please. This sort of thing is ridiculous and, nonono not because I’m offended on a shipping level, because I’m totally not at all. Because I’m offended on a viewer of good TV level.

I also have a theory that a lot of what was wrong with S8 of BtVS is Joss trying to make some sort of statement on fandom and his show and whatever and—

No. I hate this. I don’t like it. I don’t want this anymore. I want writers to quit paying attention to fandom (except when we say, “No, this is bad and not working in any way.” Sometimes a writer needs to hear this. See: Joss and S8). I want them to quit writing our theories or feelings or selves ERIC KRIPKE into their shows. I don’t want the shows to be about me. I want them to be about the characters.

I think I’m just an earnest, sincere, sentimental person. I like dramatic irony, as I said, where we know something the character doesn’t because we’ve seen other things that are happening in the story that that character hasn’t seen, and I enjoy meta jokes now and then when they stay small. But I’m here for the story, not for some statement you’re making. If the characters aren’t doing and saying things because they are who they are then I want no part in the story. Basically, I want the author to be as far from the story as possible. I want to forget that there is an author. I want to believe that this is real. Don’t turn them into your mouthpiece or your way of making a statement on something. Have them be themselves. That’s what keeps me invested in a show. That’s why I’m a fangirl.

This is not unrelated to my hatred of hipsterism. I HATEHATEHATE their “irony.” “Oh, I’m drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon because it’s ironic!” Not funny at all, not when the working class, usually rural people I know who drink that beer have always done so because they couldn’t afford anything else and now the people who sell it are raising the price because the hipsters made the demand for it go up. “Oh, I’m living in this run-down part of town because it’s ironic!” Not cool, not when you’re gentrifying the area and strutting around like you think you’re better than the people who live there because they have no other options. “Oh, I’m shopping at Goodwill because I can find the best old t-shirts and aren’t they just so ironic!” Not amusing, because you are an asshole. And worst of all—“Oh, I’m saying this racist/sexist/ableist/whatever thing but it’s just irony, you know, I don’t really believe it.” NO. NOT OKAY. Not even the slightest bit okay when what you’re really doing is resting on your privilege and perpetuating all of those *isms by speaking and acting the way you do.

Hipsterism as an aesthetic is…whatever. I don’t like it, it doesn’t appeal to me, but then I’ve always liked pretty things, not grunge. (Thank God I wasn’t a teenager during the early 90s). But you can wear whatever you want. But it’s hipsterism as an attitude that just pisses me off so much I can’t see straight and I start cussing.

Basically, I love sincerity. I have no interest in doing anything because it’s ironic. Go. Away.

Anyways. Sorry for that ridiculous rant. I just needed to get it out of my system. I now return you to your regularly scheduled fangirling. Always in progress.


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[identity profile] pocochina.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 07:35 pm UTC (link)
Basically, I love sincerity. I have no interest in doing anything because it’s ironic. Go. Away.

yes at all of this. Ugh, hipsters, gtfo; call me when you are actually bored by everything in the world, have no energy for putting yourself together every day, and have to live on a budget. boo.

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 07:40 pm UTC (link)
OMG I LOVE YOU. THIS.

Possible favorite quote of all time: "…because nerds like us are allowed to be unironically enthusiastic about stuff… Nerds are allowed to love stuff, like jump-up-and-down-in-the-chair-can’t-control-yourself love it. Hank, when people call people nerds, mostly what they’re saying is ‘you like stuff.’ Which is just not a good insult at all. Like, ‘you are too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness.'"

-John Green

The story of my life is swinging between being too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness and being totally disinterested in everything on earth. Basically my natural tendency is hardcore nerddom, but then stupid depression barges in and drags me down. You know.

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[identity profile] pocochina.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 07:49 pm UTC (link)
I LOVE THAT QUOTE THE MOST.

my natural tendency is hardcore nerddom, but then stupid depression barges in and drags me down. You know.

yeah, i really do. ♥

haha I have a whole theory that hipsterism is depression drag and that is why it irks me so much. /shameless

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 07:55 pm UTC (link)
IT IS THE GREATEST QUOTE EVER. FAVORITE.



OMG I LOVE THIS THEORY. I WILL BE READING IT.

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[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 09:18 pm UTC (link)
YES. I remember and thoroughly agree with your depression-drag theory.

I think it's a whole depressed/nihilistic aesthetic. And it just cuts me to the quick. Like--how can you believe in NOTHING? How can you prescribe to the idea that there's no value not only in your own original ideas, but in the ideas of everyone throughout history? (And what I mean by that is, the relentless borrowing. The non sequiturs of their Victorian hats worn with a hole-filled T-shirt PBR T-shirt. It disregards not only the ideas/fashions/creative arts being generated by awesome people working hard in earnest to enrich our collective experiences on this planet--it disregards the meaning and context of the ideas/fashions/creative arts that it is borrowing.) And, maybe I haven't said it here--but I love Postmodernism. I really do. But at a point (the point where we now are), it's a movement that cannibalizes itself. Borrowing and decontextualizing everything until nothing has any meaning. And that's all well and good--but eventually even the ACT of decontextualizing loses all meaning. So, the postmodernist (ie hipster) has destroyed himself and his own statement.

And frankly, I'm way less concerned with them destroying their own statement than I am with them appropriating/mocking the earnest lifestyles of others. But... I'm just kind of rambling here.

I hope some of that made sense.

And also--I need to go read your Wesley essay PART DEUX! I've been a little scattered (if you can't tell from this comment), but I'm going to read it and revel in your genius!

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[identity profile] pocochina.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 09:45 pm UTC (link)
Yeah. And it's funny, because I totally accidentally fit into the hipster aesthetic pretty frequently. If I am not dressed to impress for any particular reason and just pulling out whatever suits me in my closet, it's totally wacky colors/patters, layers that don't always match, worn old shoes: basically the Liz Lemon/Topher Brink look.

But I never feel like I look trendy, because to get that IDGAF look, you have to work really hard at showing how THIS MEANS NOTHING TO ME!!11!! O HOW FUTILE AND MEANINGLESS IS MY OVERPRICED EXISTENCE. whatever.

And you're absolutely right, it's with the fashion angle in particular that you end up with the vertigo, because the act of wearing something non-conventional is in itself positive choice and context, so the "irony" and decontextualization is really just refusal to just admit WHATEVER, NERDS, I LIKE MY PURPLE HAT.

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[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 08:08 pm UTC (link)
OH I LOVE THIS QUOTE. I was trying to remember it so I could tell it to my sister (because I'd seen it on your tumblr)--but I butchered it, and my slaughtered version wasn't nearly as awesome as the real thing.

The story of my life is swinging between being too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness and being totally disinterested in everything on earth.

ILU so much for this.

The hipster thing grates on me so much. The hahaha look, I'm so funny 'cause I'm acting like a poor person! hahaha. Do you get it? Huh? I'M NOT POOR. COMEDY GOLD.

FUUUUUU, you privileged fucks. Poverty is NOT funny. Mocking poverty is not funny. It doesn't make you deep or smart or an edgy comedian. It makes you an asshole.

Sorry. Feelings. I have many of them.

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 08:14 pm UTC (link)
GREATEST QUOTE EVER.

I KNOW. Whenever I think of people thinking poverty is somehow glamorous or funny or something, I always think of Sherman Alexie's The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-time Indian. It's written in first person, and the main character says that being poor is the worst thing on earth and tells this story of when his dog, his best friend got sick, and his family absolutely couldn't afford to go to the vet and so they had to shoot it. And he's like, "That's poverty. It's ugly and it hurts and there's nothing glamorous about being hungry or about having to watch your dad shoot your dog. Nothing at all."

UGH. IT PISSES ME OFF. Like, as someone who comes from a family background with a lot of poverty--I've always been firmly middle class, but my grandparents and their families before them were miners and tenant farmers, and they knew poverty and knew it well--it just makes me so very angry.

And when I think about how genuinely hard a lot of people's lives are--MOST PEOPLE ON EARTH, IN FACT--I have nothing but impatience for people who never really want for anything and aren't grateful. I don't think people need to feel guilty for being well off, because that doesn't help anything (though goodness knows I feel guilty about it sometimes) but if you aren't grateful, I just have no time for you. Go. Away.

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[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 09:50 pm UTC (link)
YES--Sherman Alexi! Exactly.

I grew up in a variety of socioeconomic categories--but during my formative years, we were po'. Like really. So, I get this bubbling class rage over these types of things--and it makes me almost have French-Revolution-style thoughts.

Because it is a really sick thing--this mocking of human experience--but, I think it has its origins in a place that I understand, or at least that I can get behind artistically. Which is sort of what I was ranting about in my comment to Pocochina--hipsterism is really just the commercial/consumer-friendly branch of postmodernism. So, their "references" and "irony" are based on the sense of play and decontextualization of history and breakdown of conventions that are present in postmodern art and lit.

The problem is--you can't decontextualize suffering. Because when you do, you trivialize it. You are telling the people from whom you are you're borrowing artifacts of their suffering that their experiences are meaningless. That their ongoing tribulations aren't occurring. And that's the REAL danger. That the decontextualization of these issues (poverty, racism, etc) denies that the they are still problems. Or if they are problems, the problems, like everything else, are meaningless. All of human experience is a collection of simulacrum that amounts to nothing real. And so it's fine that women are being raped for sport in the Congo and it's fine that impoverished miners are being trapped in collapsed mines and are suffocating to death and its fine that people are still calling the first lady of the United fucking States a "ghetto crack whore." Because none of that matters. You can take apart all the suffering and disassemble it just like you've disassembled the significance of the hipster phrenology charts and taxidermy animals, and pearl-button shirts, and the steampunk Victorian hats, and the Pabst Blue Ribbon.

Aaaand I'm done ranting now.

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 10:24 pm UTC (link)
Please never stop ranting. Because I could listen to you talk about this all day. I'm seriously sitting her flailing and saying YES YES YES YES YES about every word that you write. THIS IS HUGE. THIS IS IMPORTANT. I WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO HEAR IT.

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[identity profile] blackfrancine.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 11:27 pm UTC (link)
HEE! ♥!

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[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 08:51 pm UTC (link)
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

The story of my life is swinging between being too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness and being totally disinterested in everything on earth.

SML, too. *hugs*

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 09:01 pm UTC (link)
I love how much my flist understands me. Sometimes it makes me want to cry. In the good way.

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[personal profile] snickfic
2011-01-21 11:53 pm UTC (link)
I can't remember, are you one of my people who loves North and South? (English TV, not American Civil War miniseries) Because [livejournal.com profile] lettered, who is generally brilliant (I don't say this lightly) has just posted a North and South snippet that is basically all about people who profess to be bored by everything vs. people who interested in stuff. Well, and also about sexual awakening.

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[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
2011-01-22 12:21 am UTC (link)
I am! I love it! I shall have to read that!

Well, and also about sexual awakening.

brb laughing forever

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[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 08:50 pm UTC (link)
Ugh, hipsters, gtfo; call me when you are actually bored by everything in the world, have no energy for putting yourself together every day, and have to live on a budget. boo.

ugh, gross. that hadn't hit me yet but yeah gross. appropriating poverty and mental illness? gross.

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[identity profile] pocochina.livejournal.com
2011-01-21 09:47 pm UTC (link)
right? suck it, nerds.

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